Is that possible??

Do we do it to ourselves most of the time?
Killing not our physical self .. but our mental mind
our confidence ...our courage .. our focus

Any comments to that??

Do you want to break out of this dangerous habit
that the obstacles in life is not that big as it seems
We just make it bigger that all

The Six Basic of FEARS
The fear of POVERTY
The fear of CRITICISM
The fear of ILL HEALTH
The fear of LOSS OF LOVE
The fear of OLD AGE
The fear of DEATH
Fear is nothing more than the state of mind. Man thought impulses immediately translate
themselves into physical equivalent, whether those thoughts voluntary or involuntary.

When we are in this negative state, we are being paralyzed. Worry works in slowly and
persistently ~ “dig itself in” and destroys our self confidence and initiative. Worry is a form of
sustained fear caused by indecision. An unsettled mind is helpless.

A mind filled with fear destroys the intelligent action and break down of creative imagination
and transmit into destructive actions.

Story :- How a man will himself to death
A commercial refrigerator cleaner got himself locked in a huge refrigerator cabin at 11am. He
panic. He looked at the thermometer states a measurement of -20 degrees and an hour of air left.

His colleagues started looking for him during lunch time and found that he was locked in the
unit. When they found him, he was huddled in a corner, died.

They went and study the meters and found that it had faulty reading. The temperature was 10
degrees and it had oxygen level of up to 4 hours. The man had willed himself to death.

Do we want to be in this corner? Or have an “I Can” mindset?

Hey amber,

You make some really good points here. Fear is the great imobilizer and can be an underlying cause to repeated failure. Recognizing the fear is the first step in overcoming it, so it's a good subject to discuss.

However, I think your story about the guy willing himself to death in the refrigerator is too far fetched to be of any value in the support of your assertions.

gm

Well Coach,

When someone is confident n strong they would think that this story is a bit far fetch..

In this world of stress, circumstances has eroded us slowly of our confidence and positive mindset

When we stop continuing our daily motivation, we would just end up like the man in the refrigerator..

I think it is possible to will yourself to death.

A starving person dies because his thoughts all flow to the lack of food and the belief that he will die if he doesn't get food soon.

A fasting person believes that his fasting is a positive thing, depending on his belief system or intentions. Since his thoughts are directed toward life, health, and the benefits of fasting, he lives longer.

It has been documented that a person who believes he is starving does not survive as long as a person who is fasting for health or religious purposes.

I think I heard it from Tony Robbins, but scientists did an experiment where they made a very very very superficial cut on a man's leg and told him that he was bleeding. They then turned out the lights and pumped in the sound of dripping water. The man thought he was bleeding to death and because he thought that, he died. I think they strapped him in or something so he couldn't make sure that he was bleeding. If anybody else listens to Tony Robbins, maybe you can verify. I heard it a loonng time ago.

Wow...that would suck. But, I fully believe that we can project our beliefs into action. And in some cases project our beliefs into inaction. ;)

I love Tony Robbins.

I seriously doubt that somone dies of false belives, unless their
pulse and heart rate goes up to the extreme and in addition they
have poorer than average health.

I mean, how could your thinking affect your physical body to such
an extreme?

I think I heard it from Tony Robbins, but scientists did an experiment where they made a very very very superficial cut on a man's leg and told him that he was bleeding. They then turned out the lights and pumped in the sound of dripping water. The man thought he was bleeding to death and because he thought that, he died. I think they strapped him in or something so he couldn't make sure that he was bleeding. If anybody else listens to Tony Robbins, maybe you can verify. I heard it a loonng time ago.


C'mon... you can't honestly believe this or expect anyone else to. Please supply a link to information verifying your claim or stop posting rumors.

Get a grip!!!

Think about it - that wouldn't be legal - so even if it did happen 9whihc i severly doubt) there is no way it could have been documented.

Certainly wouldn't be an ethical study.

Having said that, I think it's possible. I have personally seen people "will themselves to live" so I have to ask why wouldn't the inverse be plausible?

The story Amber relates (or a version of it) is also told by Joel Osteen in his book Living Your Best Life Now.

Yes the brain is so powerful
It can be turn either way

will yourself to death
will yourself to live

you have the power to turn it either way
Just simply
BELIEF CONSISTENT AND PERSISTENT

Just have these three attitude built in
and you just find the ways to get what you want

yes the mind is powerful... blah, blah, blah... will-power blah, blah...

... but get real. :cool:

Hey Coach--in a blue mood because you're wearing saggy diapers that leak? :biglaugh:

Well, I do know that people have lost the will to live, and then of course, eventually died. I believe the mind is a powerful thing also. The story about the man bleeding to death was a little extreme for me to believe, but I have known people who have fallen into depression,especially after being diagnosed with an illness, and then lost the will to live....

Well, I do know that people have lost the will to live, and then of course, eventually died. I believe the mind is a powerful thing also. The story about the man bleeding to death was a little extreme for me to believe, but I have known people who have fallen into depression,especially after being diagnosed with an illness, and then lost the will to live....


... and they usually need a gun or sleeping pills to help them finish the job.

Hey Coach--in a blue mood because you're wearing saggy diapers that leak? :biglaugh:


No, that was last week. With regard to this subject, I'm just a little fed up with people trying to pass off myths and legends as "real". I simply want them to show evidence to support their outrageous theories or shut their pie hole. :lildevil:

I'm just a little fed up with people trying to pass off myths and legends as "real". I simply want them to show evidence to support their outrageous theories or shut their pie hole. :lildevil:

I guess I have a little different view on it. I think "myths and legends" are basically the foundation of all religions and most people's idividual belief systems. That pretty much makes them the premise for faith. I also happen to believe faith to be an extremely powerful part of many (if not most) people's lives and since faith becomes pretty difficult to back with evidence, I would just assume allow people to have it and use it as they see fit. I find that when that happens, it tends to work pretty darn well for them.

Now trust me, I haven't always been like that. I definately used to be a "hard evidence-hard science" kinda guy (and in some areas I still am), but it doesn't take away from the fact that many people operate under belief systems that work pretty well for them even if it can't be "backed up with evidence".

Just my 2 cents!:tiphat:

You can muster up "faith" in your ability to flap your arms and fly to the
moon.It probably wont happen though. :)

I guess I have a little different view on it. I think "myths and legends" are basically the foundation of all religions and most people's idividual belief systems. That pretty much makes them the premise for faith. I also happen to believe faith to be an extremely powerful part of many (if not most) people's lives and since faith becomes pretty difficult to back with evidence, I would just assume allow people to have it and use it as they see fit. I find that when that happens, it tends to work pretty darn well for them.

Now trust me, I haven't always been like that. I definately used to be a "hard evidence-hard science" kinda guy (and in some areas I still am), but it doesn't take away from the fact that many people operate under belief systems that work pretty well for them even if it can't be "backed up with evidence".

Just my 2 cents!:tiphat:

Everybody operates under his/her own belief system. That's like saying that breathing has worked out well for a lot of people.

The notion that a person can will themselves to die (actually kill themselves just by thinking it) is crap.

my 2 cents. :)

... and they usually need a gun or sleeping pills to help them finish the job.


I think you are right with this one. I was speaking about a terminal illness ;)

I think you are right with this one. I was speaking about a terminal illness ;)

I agree with you about terminal illness. I think people who decide they would rather die than fight the illness tend to die quicker than those who fight it.

I think you and I would also agree that, while a person's will can have an impact on the length and quality of life, it's ultimately the disease that kills the terminal patient and not their own thought.:yup:

Everybody operates under his/her own belief system. That's like saying that breathing has worked out well for a lot of people.

The notion that a person can will themselves to die (actually kill themselves just by thinking it) is crap.

my 2 cents. :)

I would agree that there is more to it than "just thinking about it", but I'm guessing you haven't seen an elderly parent die of "nothing" after her husband of almost 50 years unexpectedly passed away three months earlier. Maybe it's not technically willing oneself to death as much as it is giving up the will to live. But then again, maybe that's just semantics.

I would agree that there is more to it than "just thinking about it", but I'm guessing you haven't seen an elderly parent die of "nothing" after her husband of almost 50 years unexpectedly passed away three months earlier. Maybe it's not technically willing oneself to death as much as it is giving up the will to live. But then again, maybe that's just semantics.


You've got a point with this example. I'm not disputing there are things / powers of the spirit / mind that we simply cannot explain. In my first reply to amber I noted that she made several good points. I just think the idea goes too far when people begin to make up stories like the one about the guy who was tricked into thinking he was bleeding to death and actually died; that's just way too ridiculous, wouldn't you agree?

I just think the idea goes too far when people begin to make up stories like the one about the guy who was tricked into thinking he was bleeding to death and actually died; that's just way too ridiculous, wouldn't you agree?

No doubt, Coach. I would agree 100% with you. I heard a version of that story told by Anthony Robbins and I was a bit disappointed in him for telling it as "truth".

Likewise, Joel Osteen tells the story of the guy "freezing to death" but also doesn't tell it as a truth, but as a parable. There is a BIG difference.

You've got a point with this example. I'm not disputing there are things / powers of the spirit / mind that we simply cannot explain. In my first reply to amber I noted that she made several good points. I just think the idea goes too far when people begin to make up stories like the one about the guy who was tricked into thinking he was bleeding to death and actually died; that's just way too ridiculous, wouldn't you agree?

It might be an extreme example of the power of suggestion... and i doubt if it is true, unless maybe the man has an extreme poor mental and physical health... or he died of a heart attack :D

Anyway, accepting other people's suggestion will certainly affect your present state of mind and body. The degree may vary depending on the person's mental health/awareness.

Ex.
You are walking down the street and a friend of yours says to you that you look sick (maybe because you forgot to comb your hair, washed your face, crumpled clothes, etc.). Then on the way to work, a co-employee commented the same thing. Then another, and another... what will you think will that person feel at the end of the day if he/she accepted those suggestions as a fact? He might not feel so sick but certainly if those were accepted by his mind he will not feel so upbeat or enthusiastic either.

My grandfather is a good example... he is so hard headed, he don't like to take medicines only relying on hot compress and some herbs... and yet he is still healthy compared to his friends... he believe that he is not yet old (70+) and he will only die at the age of 150+ (believing that man could live like moses and other people who lived 200+). :yikes: