Does hypnosis work? I've been reading about people using it for losing weight. I'm thinking maybe I should try it.

For some people it does. It can convience you do many things, that you didn't have confidence or was to lazy to do in the first place. Also it can be used for meditation to free your mind.

I tried it a couple of times when I was younger, to quit smoking. It didn't work. But at least three of my family members used it for that and were successful. I think some people are not suggestible enough for it to work.

Hypnosis can be very useful. For ages, people have used it in sports, war, to alleviate fears, and for general success in life. You might want to use Hypnosis to achieve a higher level of confidence, or you might want to get rid of that fear that is interfering in your life. Perhaps you just want to keep your mind focused. These are just some of the applications of hypnosis. While it costs quite a bit to have a trained professional hypnotizing you, you do have other options. There are many self help books available at your local library about Hypnosis and its benefits. I found that it takes quite a bit of practice before you can successfully hypnotize yourself, so don't give up early on :).

I remember reading a book on self-hypnosis ages ago. I never tried it though. It's amazing how you can reach your subconscious and make such a great impact on your whole thought process. Or in some cases retrieve lost or blocked memories.

Hypnosis can actually be quite dangerous for long-term change. It's not so bad as long as it's part of an overall psychiatric treatment plan. But when it's used to change the way the subconscious thinks about itself it's dangerous.

I can't find the link, but there have been studies which link the chemical reactions present in people with repressed memories as being the same chemicals (nasty, destructive chemicals) with those individuals who have undergone 'reformative hypnosis'.

Decreased memory, a general sense of disorientation... Not fun. Not common, but anything which seeks to give you something useful with a quick fix should always be very carefully examined.

It goes past the roots and tries to cover too much up. Again, unless it's part of general psychiatric or counselling treatment.

Jeremy,

That's pretty interesting. I wasn't really aware of this "dark-side" of hypnosis. I'm not really sure what to think about the whole process. I think it has good uses and bad uses... Not sure if it can be used for brain-washing (a la Manchurian Candidate) or not. They usually say that hypnosis can't make you do something that you would not ordinarily do.

I'm not too worried about 'doing what you don't want to do'. I'm more worried about the hypnosis convincing your brain to act a way that it DOES want to do, but that there are inhibiting factors it's choosing to ignore (memories, emotions, etc). That's where it's dangerous (in my very unlearned opinion).

Does hypnosis work? I've been reading about people using it for losing weight. I'm thinking maybe I should try it.

im not sure myself. i have seen a few videos on hypnosis. this one guy hypnotized people just by touching them. it seemed fake to me.

I have some business to attend to this evening, but I will make sure to get back to this thread in the next day or so.

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thanks adam. this is an interesting subject.

im not sure myself. i have seen a few videos on hypnosis. this one guy hypnotized people just by touching them. it seemed fake to me.

Hypnosis may not have worked back when Willdraw originally posted his question but in the years afterwords there have been some remarkable breakthroughs so today it might just work. :lildevil:

In answer to his real question, will Hypnosis help me loose weight? The answer is no, not if he doesn't want to loose weight.
There are three ways to loose weight without medical intervention

Take in fewer calories than you burn
Burn more calories than you take in
A combination of them both.

Hypnosis may not have worked back when Willdraw originally posted his question but in the years afterwords there have been some remarkable breakthroughs so today it might just work. :lildevil:

In answer to his real question, will Hypnosis help me loose weight? The answer is no, not if he doesn't want to loose weight.
There are three ways to loose weight without medical intervention

Take in fewer calories than you burn
Burn more calories than you take in
A combination of them both.


but if he wants to lose weight it can help?

but if he wants to lose weight it can help?
If he wanted to loose weight then he wouldn't seek hypnosis
The fact is, he is hypnotized into thinking he needs some external help.
So many people walk around in trance wondering if they need hypnosis.
It is rather funny don't you think?

If he wanted to loose weight then he wouldn't seek hypnosis
The fact is, he is hypnotized into thinking he needs some external help.
So many people walk around in trance wondering if they need hypnosis.
It is rather funny don't you think?

Yep, it's called External Locus of Control. Many people operate from this point of view - meaning that everything that happens to them is because of some external factor, rather than something an internal choice/habit/behaviour.

I've studied hypnosis. It can work.

I don't practice it because what is more important is changing the belief that lays below the challenge. For example I can work with someone to quit smoking, and if they don't change the belief/feeling that leads them to smoke, than they will replace the behavior with something else like eating sweets.

Look at why you are needing to loose weight. What is the belief in yourself that has led to extra pounds? Work on that and the weight will change.

Feel free to PM me with questions.

Hypnosis can actually be quite dangerous for long-term change. It's not so bad as long as it's part of an overall psychiatric treatment plan. But when it's used to change the way the subconscious thinks about itself it's dangerous.

I can't find the link, but there have been studies which link the chemical reactions present in people with repressed memories as being the same chemicals (nasty, destructive chemicals) with those individuals who have undergone 'reformative hypnosis'.

Decreased memory, a general sense of disorientation... Not fun. Not common, but anything which seeks to give you something useful with a quick fix should always be very carefully examined.

It goes past the roots and tries to cover too much up. Again, unless it's part of general psychiatric or counselling treatment.


Hypnosis is simply a quieting of the mind. It is just like deep meditation.

I would question where you get your info? I've studied a lot, not sure you are totally correct.

I've studied hypnosis. It can work.

I don't practice it because what is more important is changing the belief that lays below the challenge. For example I can work with someone to quit smoking, and if they don't change the belief/feeling that leads them to smoke, than they will replace the behavior with something else like eating sweets.

Look at why you are needing to loose weight. What is the belief in yourself that has led to extra pounds? Work on that and the weight will change.

Feel free to PM me with questions.

is the "instant induction" stuff real?

is the "instant induction" stuff real?

Instant induction is real. There are some very special conditions that need to be met though.

I'll plagiarize here, and it was originally written for 'forced hypnosis', but it works for instant induction also:

1. The skill of the hypnotist - it does not have to be a professional person, and on the other hand not every professional hypnotist could do that. A high level of skill and self confidence (and one-up-man-ship, an attitude we've discussed here in the past) is required. By the way, most on-stage hypnotists would not be able to pull it off unless there's a stage and an audience and a subject that is extremely nervous/excited at that moment...

2. The somnabulism level of the subject - of course, the trance habits of the person being hypnotized is also an important factor. If we're dealing with a down to earth type of person, who is a determined and assertive person, or persuasive - then the chances of hypnotizing that person against his will are quite low.

3. The situation - even the most non-hypnotizeable individuals can be sent to a TDS in a second, if the situation allows it. Just look at hypnosis shows... People who are known to be very much in control of themselves (or of others) are acting like children, forgetting the number 3 or expressing themselves in the language of dolphins. Why? Because the situation makes them nervous (they're on stage, surrounded by strangers and a hypnotist with the one-up-man-ship attitude, stared at by hunreds of entertainment consumers). That type of situation sends a normal person on a TDS (trance-derivational-search) automatically - their mind is looking for consistencies, for "knowns", for guidance. The hypnotist offers all 3 - "here's what you do, John, when I snap my fingers you will open your eyes and speak to your fellow dolphins... 1 2 3..." snap, John is acting as expected and out of his immediate conscious control. It's an easy escape.

Fixing these factors, even up front, is quite easy for entertainment hypnosis. But, in real life, the chances for these factors to randomly be set is rare. You could be the greatest hypnotist in America, but without a proper situation or a highly suggestible subject (or both, to make your outcome easier to reach), there's less chance for you to control other people with your skills.

And here's a bigger "but"... BUT, if you focus on little mental movements instead of big time mind control, you'll be taking your subjects faster to where you want them to go.

thanks for the info. im sure there are real professionals and hucksters as well.

thanks for the info. im sure there are real professionals and hucksters as well.

Yes, like in all things.

The main thing to realize about hypnosis is it doesn't work if the person's mind does not want to let go. So if a person does not want to be hypnotized it will not work. As simple as that.

I've been hypnotized a lot to help me learn on a deeper level. When I was studying NLP the teacher would hypnotize the class and repeat what we learned that day. I was always totally aware of what was going on, it simply allowed part of my mind to relax while another part took in info.

Personally I love being hypnotized, and I always completely trusted the person hypnotizing me. I would never let anyone hypnotize me that I wasn't comfortable with. Even if they tried my mind would not let it in.

Yes, like in all things.

The main thing to realize about hypnosis is it doesn't work if the person's mind does not want to let go. So if a person does not want to be hypnotized it will not work. As simple as that.

I've been hypnotized a lot to help me learn on a deeper level. When I was studying NLP the teacher would hypnotize the class and repeat what we learned that day. I was always totally aware of what was going on, it simply allowed part of my mind to relax while another part took in info.

Personally I love being hypnotized, and I always completely trusted the person hypnotizing me. I would never let anyone hypnotize me that I wasn't comfortable with. Even if they tried my mind would not let it in.

can they make people sqauk like a chicken or is that fake?

can they make people sqauk like a chicken or is that fake?
Only if they want to Squawk like a chicken.
That is the thing about Hypnosis, you cannot make people do something they wouldn't ordinarily do. We ALL go into trance many times a day. EVERYONE can be hypnotized and is.

There are many misconceptions about hypnosis.

it sounds like to me its more of a self hypnosis thing. its up to the person.

it sounds like to me its more of a self hypnosis thing. its up to the person.

EXACTLY!!!! :thumb:

can hypnosis be used for nefarious purposes?

can hypnosis be used for nefarious purposes?

No. Again, you cannot be 'made' to do anything you don't want to do under hypnosis.

All hypnosis is self hypnosis. The hypnotist is there to help guide you into trance.


You can either believe what I typed now or after thinking about it for a little bit...but I'm sure you're already feeling the truth is there.

:ninja:

i think i would be a good hypnotic subject. i am open to alot of things.

what is neuro linguistic programming? is that learning a foreign language from hypnosis?

what is neuro linguistic programming? is that learning a foreign language from hypnosis?
Ever heard of Google.com? :lildevil:

what is neuro linguistic programming? is that learning a foreign language from hypnosis?

One day, two men called John Grinder, and Richard Bandler read Dianetics by L Ron Hubbard.

The decided to jazz it up a bit and made a load of money out of it.

it sounds like brainwashing. is that what it is?

it sounds like brainwashing. is that what it is?

What you mean like when the media tell you Bush is bad?

what is neuro linguistic programming? is that learning a foreign language from hypnosis?

Instead of telling you my interpretation of it, or listening to Chuck D's amusing version of it, I'll say you take Scooter's suggestion, Google it and see for yourself. There are tons of sites out there describing it pretty accurately.

i will see what i can find out.

i will see what i can find out.
There are endless resources.
John Grinder and Richard Bandler did not base NLP on Dianetics
Chuck eats way too many crumpets.

There are no space ships involves and John Travolta and Tom Cruise will not be a space aliens today. Anyway, do some searching, you will find it very interesting, you might even find it is valuable. NLP is not Hypnosis, Hypnosis is something studied and modeled in NLP.

Here is a place to get you started.
http://www.nlpinfo.com/

There are endless resources.
John Grinder and Richard Bandler did not base NLP on Dianetics
Chuck eats way too many crumpets.

There are no space ships involves and John Travolta and Tom Cruise will not be a space aliens today. Anyway, do some searching, you will find it very interesting, you might even find it is valuable. NLP is not Hypnosis, Hypnosis is something studied and modeled in NLP.

Here is a place to get you started.
http://www.nlpinfo.com/

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thanks for the info.

There are endless resources.
John Grinder and Richard Bandler did not base NLP on Dianetics
Chuck eats way too many crumpets.

There are no space ships involves and John Travolta and Tom Cruise will not be a space aliens today. Anyway, do some searching, you will find it very interesting, you might even find it is valuable. NLP is not Hypnosis, Hypnosis is something studied and modeled in NLP.

Here is a place to get you started.
http://www.nlpinfo.com/

Scoots

Spaceships, and John & Tom aside, there are a lot of similar points.

I was being flippant of course about Grindeler & Bandler's method.

"Frogs into Princes" and "Using your brain for a change" are books worth reading Sarah.

Scoots

Spaceships, and John & Tom aside, there are a lot of similar points.

I was being flippant of course about Grindeler & Bandler's method.

"Frogs into Princes" and "Using your brain for a change" are books worth reading Sarah.
I know, I was just pushing back ;)
Now where did I park my spaceship :hmm:

Scoots

Spaceships, and John & Tom aside, there are a lot of similar points.

I was being flippant of course about Grindeler & Bandler's method.

"Frogs into Princes" and "Using your brain for a change" are books worth reading Sarah.

i will check barnes and noble and the library

i will check barnes and noble and the library

Another great 'starter' book on NLP is "Introducing NLP" by O'Connor. Covers all the basics and does it well.

Another great 'starter' book on NLP is "Introducing NLP" by O'Connor. Covers all the basics and does it well.
That is also on CD and a very good introduction to the technology.
Any Anthony Robbins Material is also founded in NLP

are there any books on hypnotizing people? i could hypnotize amy, hehe

There are literally hundreds of books on hypnosis. If you're really serious about learning it, there is a website that teaches hypnosis for free.

www.british-hypnosis-research.com

I hope that goes through. Mods, I know we shouldn't post weblinks, but this is a non-profit website offering quality education.

Adam

Of course controlling ur calories is important for weight loss, and wanting to loose weight, but no matter what u do, to make a long lasting changes, u need to first change ur self image, and make the bad habbits (eating habbits) unbearable. Changing ur self image can b done by imagining urself under hypnosis already in the desired shape(if weight is the issue). By constantly going into a medative state and imaganing urself in better shape will change the way u think about urself. The subconscious's job is to prove that ur beliefs, thoughts, and self image etc is true. This is done by filtering everything that doesn't support the information in the subconscious mind. The subconscious mind will constantly put u in situations that support ur views ( being for or thin in this case). So if u feel that u r fat, ur subconscious mind will constantly put u in situations were u r fat. You might end up infront of burger king, eat a big burger and then say see, I was right, I am fat, I can't loose weight. Hypnosis can b used to make the habits unbearable, by makng them disgusting, and by making the new habit appealing. This doesn't have to be done under hypnosis, but it is easier to reach the subconscious mind under hypnosis. Make a list of all the pros and cons of the bad habit. What is this bad habit costing u? What r u missing out on. Then write about the good things that could come from loosing weight for example,and start to assosiate as much pain as u can to the negative habbit, and lots of pleasure to quitting it. By constantly changing the way u think about urself, and by constantly assosiating pain to the bad habit, and pleasure to not having the bad habbit, u can make a log lasting change. One more thing, try to find a healthy habbit that is fun and u will benifit from. A book hat is good for understanding NLP is Awaken the giant within.

Good Luck :thumb: