Looking forward to getting some feedback from left-leaning members on this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJmbomyq0fc

:hmm: :bonk: :banghead:

Thats the funniest thing I've seen for years.

Especially the last bit about handling Hurricane Katrina.

I wonder what Kanye West has to say about it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pVTrnxCZaQ

One minute thirty something.....

That was satire, right? :cookoo:

Consider the source folks:

there is no such thing as "separation of Church and State." It is a commonly missunderstood falacy that our founders beleived in such a thing. You may find that many of them are "Bible-thumpers" as well.

I mean, that statement had to be satire right Junto? Right?

That was satire, right? :cookoo:

Consider the source folks:



I mean, that statement had to be satire right Junto? Right?

I don't blame you for being apprehensive about beleiving me so hear it is. Tell me where you find the phrase, "seperaton of church and state."

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;.." -- First Amendment --

I don't blame you for being apprehensive about beleiving me so hear it is. Tell me where you find the phrase, "seperaton of church and state."

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;.." -- First Amendment --

That bold piece I'm affraid of going away - in respects to anything not christian.

I don't blame you for being apprehensive about beleiving me so hear it is. Tell me where you find the phrase, "seperaton of church and state."

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;.." -- First Amendment --

You stated that our founders didn't believe in a separation of church and state. Their statements suggest otherwise. Whether the exact quote is "separation of church and state" is irrelevant. Their meaning and intent is clear. The founding fathers were well aware of the negative impact religion could have when tied up in Governmental affairs.

The only religon in the U.S. government, heck the only recognized God is money. Anybody who believes otherwise is fooling themselves.

All signs point to yes. Good statement Wanderer.

You stated that our founders didn't believe in a separation of church and state. Their statements suggest otherwise. Whether the exact quote is "separation of church and state" is irrelevant. Their meaning and intent is clear. The founding fathers were well aware of the negative impact religion could have when tied up in Governmental affairs.

Paradise, if the founders desired no religious intrusion they could have easily stated that in the amendment. Instead the only restriction given was they could not make any laws establishing an official religion. What makes this even more interesting is that the restriction was only made on federal level leaving the states to do as they see fit.
Anyhow, I would agree with your statement regarding their unease with giving to much freedom to religion, it is something they did not want to see duplicated. I think though, that this point is overstated by some to paint a different picture of the intent of the founders. Just my opinion Paradise, I could be wrong.
Junto

Paradise, if the founders desired no religious intrusion they could have easily stated that in the amendment. Instead the only restriction given was they could not make any laws establishing an official religion. What makes this even more interesting is that the restriction was only made on federal level leaving the states to do as they see fit.
Anyhow, I would agree with your statement regarding their unease with giving to much freedom to religion, it is something they did not want to see duplicated. I think though, that this point is overstated by some to paint a different picture of the intent of the founders. Just my opinion Paradise, I could be wrong.
Junto

I have to agree. They (our Founding Fathers) clearly used the term "Creator", suggesting a spiritual if not religious tone, but they did not want a state-sponsored religion or church. The term "seperation of church and state" appears nowhere in the Constitution.

Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state