First of all, I want to congradulate everyone here that has chosen to take the path to success. Although it raises everyday, we make up only a small percent (around 3%) of people in America that choose to take a different path than the norm.

So why is that? I realize that a lot people are probably scared of failure, but " being scared" is only an emotion and can be overcome.

I've heard people blame the public school system for strongly leading kids on the path of to college. Then on to climb the corporate ladder.

What do you all think?

Theres theory upon theory upon theory, but I think it comes down to comfort and fear .... people are comfortable with the level they've achieved, or they are more afraid of the unknown quantity that of stepping up, and all that might encompass. They are more comfortable with the known quantity they now have, vs the unknown quality they cannot imagine.

Of course Fear is an Emotion that can be overcome, but ....... is that abilitry taught in school? Is it passed around the dinner table at Christmas? Is it discussed at work? Is it discouraged more than encouraged?

That people place blame on others is an unfortunate human trait. Unfortunate in the fact that they rarely see themselves as a contributing factor.

In reality, there is no blame. There is only results. and perceptions. and experience. and Action.

I figured this one might be better suited to and get more responses in this forum, bizforself. :)

Challenge a man and He may rise up.

First of all, I want to congradulate everyone here that has chosen to take the path to success. Although it raises everyday, we make up only a small percent (around 3%) of people in America that choose to take a different path than the norm.

So why is that? I realize that a lot people are probably scared of failure, but " being scared" is only an emotion and can be overcome.

I've heard people blame the public school system for strongly leading kids on the path of to college. Then on to climb the corporate ladder.

What do you all think?

Why? Well, speaking to one person I know, who considers most self-help books "bull****", and that only losers need them, because most people should figure it out for themselves. He believes that success is a matter of "who you know and who you ****". He is awaiting that one break that will make all the difference. In other words, after multiple setbacks in life, he has given up.

He won't even get an ordinary job, to bring some money in, but he does want to run his own business, but no one will help him. In his case help means give him both the money and the idea that he can accept as being good. Well, he does keep plugging away at betting on horses, which he believes he can make a living at. He said he could write a book with success rules on it, but it will never happen due to the sheer contempt he has for such books normally (He at least read Rich Dad, Poor Dad and MAY get Cashflow Quadrant).

For a lot of people, the price of success isn't worth it. They don't want to change (their high self-esteem makes them feel they are all that), or they feel what they will need to change into is unethical (only con artists ge ahead and they don't want to be a con artist). Or, they feel they will try, try, try and not make it.

For others, the demands of life are so great, they just don't see how they have time to manage life and become a success. They are trapped.

A final thing is that some people just don't know what they want out of life.

I am sure there are others...
- Richard

Richard

It sounds like your aquaintance is pretty firmly rooted in his own game, and would rather be confirmed cinic than possibly making something of himself, lt alone a "success." That's too bad. But there are plenty of those people to go around!

The secret to knowing them?

Stand Guard at the Door of Your Own Mind!
Realize when their influence might be making even the littlest effect, and slam that door shut, and fast! Make sure you are surrounded but what empowers you, and make that your focus.

Unfortunatly, we cannot make someone 'see', but we can always BE someone that they can see. Hopefully, they will see what works best for them.

Richard

It sounds like your aquaintance is pretty firmly rooted in his own game, and would rather be confirmed cinic than possibly making something of himself, lt alone a "success." That's too bad. But there are plenty of those people to go around!

The secret to knowing them?

Stand Guard at the Door of Your Own Mind!
Realize when their influence might be making even the littlest effect, and slam that door shut, and fast! Make sure you are surrounded but what empowers you, and make that your focus.

Unfortunatly, we cannot make someone 'see', but we can always BE someone that they can see. Hopefully, they will see what works best for them.

Well put MantaRayz!

It is EXTREMELY important that we surround ourself with people that will empower us. Like this forum for instance.

It is EXTREMELY important that we surround ourself with people that will empower us. Like this forum for instance.

That was a big factor in me starting this forum. I had this idea a having sort of a large virtual mastermind group. I've already learned a lot from the people here and I expect that what I get from it will increase exponentially. Of course, I hope this happens for others along the way, because that is another factor for me, helping others, whether directly or indirectly, to be more successful, happy, healthy, etc.

I think another factor which stops people from being successful is a lack of self-belief. Many people do not even consider the fact that they can make a better life for themselves.

I know people like this, and there is always a common thread in what they say.... "I'm not smart enough", "I don't have the money", "There's no way I could do that".... etc, etc.

If they just realised that armed with some quality knowledge, clear goals and focussed effort, that they can make drastic changes for the better.

I know exactly what you mean Scarlet. I have witnessed this same thing a lot. There is always some excuse in these people for why they can't do it. But lack of belief is really the major problem, not whatever the excuse happens to be.

people will make any excuse in regards to the fear of the unknown. we are always far more comfortable with the things that we know. the old move out of your comfort zone thing is always thrown at us, but you know, when we do take on the challenge, i bet for most of us here, that the outcome is not as bad as what we feared.

fear is only as bad as the position you give it.

easy to say huh!

First of all, I want to congradulate everyone here that has chosen to take the path to success. Although it raises everyday, we make up only a small percent (around 3%) of people in America that choose to take a different path than the norm.

So why is that? I realize that a lot people are probably scared of failure, but " being scared" is only an emotion and can be overcome.

I've heard people blame the public school system for strongly leading kids on the path of to college. Then on to climb the corporate ladder.

What do you all think?

O.K., when it was settler's time in the 19th century
with everyone coming from all countries in Europe to
have their very own farmland, or goldrush, all of them
where following a dream. Some came from necessity, but
getting out of necessity through hard work is in itself
a dream for many.

Right now it's a dream for Mexicans crossing the
border...

After the settlers' time, came the industrial
revolution and the schools and the big cities. There
was a clear interest in creating a disciplined
workforce to fuel the enourmous growth of the economy
that was a sure miracle for everybody, to the point
even the most humble worker was investing in the stock
exchange...

You have to remember that, 300 years back, people was
ruled by kings, earls, counts, lairds and so on, in a
world where only them new how to read, when they did.
At that time, this have had been so for a thousand
years. This system allowed only the nobles to follow
any dreams of their own.

And before that, you must understand that the economies
of the Greek and Roman empires, the closest you can get
to what we now consider "civilised", in antiquity were
based on slavery. There was no other way to understand
the social process of production at the time.

Remains of those slavery times of the antiquity are
still present in our present days law books ! Because
some legal principles have not yet found better
alternatives that the ones found during antiquity !

So, one has to admit that following dreams to create a
future, while surely a sound idea, is very recent, and
is due mainly in the level of education attained
recently (at the most 75 to 100 years) and on the
presence of infrastructures that permit enough
stability to be able to work on something independent
and to survive anyway.

It's that recent, and considering what the world was
before, it's no surprise that only 3% do attempt to
follow their own way at the present time.

I believe more will, in the future, probably with
snowballing effect.

mario
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people want to know the secret of other peoples success so that they can possibly replicate it. unfortunately, those same people may not want to put in those same hard yards. everyone wants the easy way, and that's what we are all intrinsically looking for. but it's not there. doesn't stop us from continually seeking it out though.

if life could just be a little bit easier, and give us that break, but the break is achieved through the hard yards.

if all financially successful people were to give us the secrets of their success, introduce us to all of their companions to help us have an easy road, how would we feel, when the outcome achieved wasn't all that difficult - when all we needed was the "secrets".

champions train to be champions. it is not easy. but it is pasionate.

First of all, I want to congradulate everyone here that has chosen to take the path to success. Although it raises everyday, we make up only a small percent (around 3%) of people in America that choose to take a different path than the norm.

So why is that? I realize that a lot people are probably scared of failure, but " being scared" is only an emotion and can be overcome.

I've heard people blame the public school system for strongly leading kids on the path of to college. Then on to climb the corporate ladder.

What do you all think?

Someone has to open your mind to possibilities: Read books on success achievement.

If you don't know where you are going in life - any road will take you there.

Most people haven't taken the time to decide where they want to go in life.

It's like the man who jumped on his horse and rode off in all directions.

Follow the Six Steps To Riches on page 36 of Napoleon Hill's Think And Grow Rich.

1 - You have to have a Definite Major Purpose in Life
2 - Be willing to stake your entire existance on achieving it
3 - Then, keep intensifying your fire of desire to persist until you succeed.

This is what is more what I had in mind when I found this Forum. :yippee:

How may people have seen Anthony Robbins on TV. And said it is to much effert or it can't be that simply. Just make up your mind and do it. Put a plan in writting and follow it. It is amazing how well it works. I have proven this to myself. All you need to do is write it down and focus on it and it will happen. :yup: It is all about focus. We have all heard what you see is what you get. That is what it is all about. Focus on the solution NOT on your problems. If you focus on your problems it will get you down. If you focus on what you want. Your mind will find a way to get it done. I think a lot of it is divine inspiration. It does say it the good book “For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and him who knocks it will be opened”.

This is what is more what I had in mind when I found this Forum. :yippee:

How may people have seen Anthony Robbins on TV. And said it is to much effert or it can't be that simply. Just make up your mind and do it. Put a plan in writting and follow it. It is amazing how well it works. I have proven this to myself. All you need to do is write it down and focus on it and it will happen. :yup: It is all about focus. We have all heard what you see is what you get. That is what it is all about. Focus on the solution NOT on your problems. If you focus on your problems it will get you down. If you focus on what you want. Your mind will find a way to get it done. I think a lot of it is divine inspiration. It does say it the good book “For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and him who knocks it will be opened”.


Well put Kansas!

That was a big factor in me starting this forum. I had this idea a having sort of a large virtual
mastermind group. I've already learned a lot from the people here and I expect that what I get from it will
increase exponentially. Of course, I hope this happens for others along the way, because that is another factor
for me, helping others, whether directly or indirectly, to be more successful, happy, healthy, etc.

It is very true that surrounding yourself with positive people helps incredibly. I'd like to thank Tom for making this forum, but even more so, I'd like to thank all the people that post here. THAT'S what makes the forum. Keep posting good stuff people!

However, although it's true that we should avoid negative people and seek out positive people, we shouldn't lose faith in ourselves. We should avoid becoming DEPENDANT on others for our success. We should learn to be self sufficient, not relying on the support of others but enjoying it and sometimes using it to spur us along in times of need.

Our real motivation should come from living our dreams, and from the satisfaction of providing value to others, which in turn brings us profit and success.

Why? Well, speaking to one person I know, who considers most self-help books "bull****", and that only losers need them, because most people should figure it out for themselves. He believes that success is a matter of "who you know and who you ****". He is awaiting that one break that will make all the difference. In other words, after multiple setbacks in life, he has given up.

Wow, IMO he seems to be a VERY negative and cynical person. I hope you don't buy into his propaganda since it will only bring you down. I think you would be better off if you disassociate your self from him. That's my 2 cents.




He won't even get an ordinary job, to bring some money in, but he does want to run his own business, but no one will help him. In his case help means give him both the money and the idea that he can accept as being good. Well, he does keep plugging away at betting on horses, which he believes he can make a living at. He said he could write a book with success rules on it, but it will never happen due to the sheer contempt he has for such books normally (He at least read Rich Dad, Poor Dad and MAY get Cash flow Quadrant).

Umm, you normally have to be successful before you can write a book on success. I mean really, what's he going to write? "Well, I would be successful if someone gave me a really great idea, a lot of money and some talented people to turn it into an opportunity." I'm thinking that wouldn't sell very well.




For a lot of people, the price of success isn't worth it. They don't want to change (their high self-esteem makes them feel they are all that), or they feel what they will need to change into is unethical (only con artists ge ahead and they don't want to be a con artist). Or, they feel they will try, try, try and not make it.

For others, the demands of life are so great, they just don't see how they have time to manage life and become a success. They are trapped.

A final thing is that some people just don't know what they want out of life.

Those are nothing more than excuses. It's funny how many people talk about how little they care about money and that they just want to be happy, yet they work for 30 years at a job that they hate and complain about the raise that they deserved but didn't get. If they didn't care about the money they would have left to do something that made them happy, not to mention that they would have never cared about the raise. Their problem is that they didn't have the balls to go after what they really wanted becasue they were afraid of what people would think of them if they failed.

Unfortunately, if you spend a lot of time around people like this you will tent to develop the same attitude. I have to tell you, most successful people didn't have it easy and failed quite a few times before they were successful.

A lot of very good input.

One thing that was not mentioned is that many people are trapped (or think they're trapped) in survival mode. They are too busy surviving to even try to be successful. A lot of other things come into play, such as low self-esteem, lacking resources (or more likely failing to see the resources that are available), not being able to see the big picture because their face is so firmly focused on what is necessary right now.

I think one reason why some people never try to advance is because they are so busy trying to make it day to day, week to week, month to month, paycheck to paycheck, that they feel they don't have the energy, time, resources or skills to break out of that cycle and start living and follow their heart.

And then there are those who are afraid to embrace themselves and are afraid of what people might think of them.

And the there are those who dream but never want to do what it takes to be successful.

And then there are those who are too proud or to ashamed to ask for help, thinking that they must do it all by themselves.

There are many reasons, many excuses why one is not successful. And some are of those reasons appear very real.

But there is only one reason for one to be successful (as opposed to lucky), and that is because one choses it.

Success if a choice. And it takes something.

Most people never make that choice. Most people won't do what it takes.... for whatever reason.

Most people don't even know what success is, and even fewer know what they truly want in life. If that is the case, then it is no wonder that most people continue to struggle day to day, paycheck to paycheck, wanting more but rarely getting it.

The only way to solve this is by being successful yourself and showing others that it can be done... by anyone... if they are willing.

In honor of the 'New Vibe' I went to the far reaches of the old 'Vibe' to bring you what should officially be called......

CLASSIC VIBE. That's right. Old posts brought back because of their wisdom.

I thought this one was great and poses the outstanding question

"Why Don't More Chase Their Dreams?".

This year, 2007, I for one am chasing a dream even though I am taking a pretty substantial financial hit for it. Putting this book together is definitely taking some time and money but I don't care.

I know that, 10 years from now when I hit 50, I won't be saying 'Damn, I sure wish I sold more houses that year'. I would be saying to myself 'You stupid jackass, why the hell didn't you put that book together'.

A toast to CLASSIC VIBE and one of my favourite classic quotes, 'If you always do what you've always done, you always get what you've always got.' CHEERS!.:guiness:

I agree with the above post that said most people don't chase their dreams because of hard work.

It is hard work, and it takes time. The majority of people don't want to work hard enough and give up before they reach their goals. Unfortunately, they believe that it will just stay a dream, something they are always chasing but never going to get.

Sometimes, once you have reached your dream, you don't even know you're there...it's kinda funny.

A friend of mine made me realize that I have reached the place I wanted to be professionally. I used to work with this friend of mine selling electronic parts. We have known each other for 4 years. A year ago, I quit that job and started a new position. When I was in the new position, I met the owner of a financial company that sells private placements to accredited investors. It took him some time, but he drew me away from my new job to work for him. He saw my hard work and motivation to suceed. This new position has opened my eyes and is bringing in the finances I couldn't have dreamed of before.

I was telling my old friend about my new job and this is what he said "Damon, a year ago you were selling electronic parts for $4.50, now you are doing $50,000 deals! I couldn't believe it when he said that because it never crossed my mind!

In the whole spectrum of life, 1 year is so short. And I did it! Too many people give up way to soon!

For those that are struggling, keep your head up, you WILL do it!

Stand Guard at the Door of Your Own Mind!


This immediately brought forth that scene from "Monty Python And The Holy Grail" wherein the two guards were instructed to "Stand 'ere, and make sure 'e doesn't leave the room." :rofl: