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MichaelM1978 12-29-2006, 03:03 PM Guy's as the impending execution of one of this worlds evil tyrants is nearing, i would ask for you all to include in your prayers tonight and tomorrow as i will the thousands of soul's whom have been affected by his mayhem.
I will never forget the pictures broadcast several years ago of the men, women and children lying dead from gas poisioning in northern Iraq. I have never had nor never think i will have any interest in the so called politics behind these people and their movements, though no soul on this earth deserves the death and destruction which have came to their lives through one mans beliefs.
I ask we just remember them at this time rather than the man whom caused it all.
joanne1216 12-29-2006, 03:08 PM Guy's as the impending execution of one of this worlds evil tyrants is nearing, i would ask for you all to include in your prayers tonight and tomorrow as i will the thousands of soul's whom have been affected by his mayhem.
I will never forget the pictures broadcast several years ago of the men, women and children lying dead from gas poisioning in northern Iraq. I have never had nor never think i will have any interest in the so called politics behind these people and their movements, though no soul on this earth deserves the death and destruction which have came to their lives through one mans beliefs.
I ask we just remember them at this time rather than the man whom caused it all.
Great post Mick. Just yesterday I was reading about some of the tortures. I believe it was Saddam's son.
I pray for those poor people who are still living through it or had to witness a family member being tortured :(
ParadiseWaits 12-29-2006, 03:25 PM I second the prayers for those who suffered under his brutal regime. Perhaps we can also send our prayers to the tens (and perhaps hundreds) of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians who have died as a result of the current war.
MichaelM1978 12-29-2006, 03:27 PM Paradise i agree - to all whom are affected
ParadiseWaits 12-29-2006, 03:29 PM Paradise i agree - to all whom are affected
Amen to that
Jennihul 12-29-2006, 05:41 PM Saddam's a bad man. No doubt. I just think executing people is wrong. Being pleased about it is wronger.
Jennifer
Auswithspirit 12-29-2006, 06:01 PM Saddam's a bad man. No doubt. I just think executing people is wrong. Being pleased about it is wronger.
Jennifer
Karma happens......
Dancing Diva 12-29-2006, 06:06 PM What goes around comes around in a greater sense! If its great - it will be greater - if its bad - life a bitch with pay back!!!:thumb:
Auswithspirit 12-29-2006, 06:12 PM What goes around comes around in a greater sense! If its great - it will be greater - if its bad - life a bitch with pay back!!!:thumb:
I was wondering when time would catch up with him.....We all pay for our sins eventually......
thinktom 12-29-2006, 09:18 PM Amen.
Shhh, keep this a secret and don't tell anyone but some of us Catholics think we're just gonna' let this Saddam guy slip through the 'we don't believe in execution' rules when no one is looking and we'll let the bastard hang.
We'll do it just this once. It won't ever happen again, I swear. Prayers to the mess he's leaving behind.
Masera 12-29-2006, 10:51 PM God Help Killers, Even If They Are The Killers OF The Killers.
One Murder Does Not Heal A Thousand.
Murder is not a choice for humans, when someone violates the law of right and wrong why should we wrong them in the same way?
Have you never had guilt that haunted you? If not perhaps you could not understand what it does to a person. Life in prison with forced watching of tapes of families talking about who they lost, would be worse then death.
IF anything he won,
His actions were monsterious and cruel, perhaps un-forgivable. But we do not rape those who rape, and we shouldnt murder those who murder.
KahunaGrande 12-29-2006, 11:20 PM Saddam Hussein, his half-brother al-Tikrit and the former Chief-Justice of the Revolutionary Courts were all hanged by the neck until dead Saturday morning (0300 GMT), having been found guilty, sentenced to death, and having had the deth sentence automatically appealed under the Iraqi justice system.
Good riddance to bad rubbish I say.
Societies have a need to protect themselves and that moves both the need and the enforcement beyond the concept of murder as an individual crime, it is why when properly enforced it takes a while to mete out, and it is why when a duly formed government, and a legitimate legal system elect to seek and enforce the death penalty, it cannot be, IMO, called murder, it is called justice.
Saddam's a bad man. No doubt. I just think executing people is wrong. Being pleased about it is wronger.
Jennifer
:wss:
applewormy 12-29-2006, 11:38 PM He deserves more than death for what he did....
I think it will bring some closure to the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's who had to go through the horrible suffering for the past 30 or so years...he doesn't deserve mercy. What he did was as bad as Hitler.
bye saddam!!
Peaceful Warrior 12-29-2006, 11:50 PM http://spikedhumor.com/articles/75529/Saddam_s_Execution.html
He's Gone.
GR8FL2BME 12-30-2006, 12:03 AM Saddam's a bad man. No doubt. I just think executing people is wrong. Being pleased about it is wronger.
Jennifer
I'm not being facetious here, Jen, but don't you think he ATTRACTED this fate for himself? I mean, seriously. He put death out there into the universe on an enormous scale, and death is what he brought back to himself.
Penelope 12-30-2006, 01:29 AM It took great courage for the Iraqi people to dispense actual justice to one of their most prominent leaders. He brought it on himself by his atrocious acts. The world is better off with one less person like that to do evil.
The death of Saddam actually achieves nothing.
In history, their have been many 'rulers' who have done similiar to what he had done. There are some still alive today who continue to do what the others have done.
If not impossible, it's a least very unlikely that anyone can prevent or predict who or when another will rise like these people.
Since just after the invasion by allied troops into Iraq, Saddam lost power and became a man on the run. Since his capture, he has caused no serious direct harm to anyone.
It makes no difference if he was inprisioned for life, or, as was his fate today, executed. Those who support and follow him will continue to do so, as will those who wish to one day be like him. Even in prison he would have eventually been forgotton by all except the few and the media.
Mark
Dancing Diva 12-30-2006, 05:36 AM I'm not being facetious here, Jen, but don't you think he ATTRACTED this fate for himself? I mean, seriously. He put death out there into the universe on an enormous scale, and death is what he brought back to himself.
So true!!! Law of attraction at work! :thumb:
Flower 12-30-2006, 08:29 AM Many legal experts have said that the trial and how it was done was a joke, meaning that if this is how things are to be done from now on in Iraq, then they worry for the future. Also there are many horrible crimes which Saddam not yet has been answering to. So Iraq is left without answers and many people must feel empty as their family members died and no one accused. Saddam had much information which didnt come out in the open due to the way the whole trial and court was done. Such a shame!
I dont agree with death penalty and cannot see any good come from this.
So I would pray for the Iraq people and worry about their country in the future. The whole country is in caos and many 100.000 people has been killed either by Saddam or USA.
Im ashamed that Denmark is in Iraq but glad that they are helping out to educate new Iraq police force, so they in the future can run the country themselves.
Lets pray and hope that they too will have a future in life without killing!
Flower
GR8FL2BME 12-30-2006, 09:33 AM Since just after the invasion by allied troops into Iraq, Saddam lost power and became a man on the run. Since his capture, he has caused no serious direct harm to anyone.
He was hanged for crimes he committed a quarter-century ago....and he is still just as guilty of and unremorseful for those crimes even though 25 years have passed. Saddam may or may not have caused serious direct harm to anyone since he became a fugitive or a captive, but can anyone seriously imagine that he did one shred of GOOD either?
It makes no difference if he was inprisioned for life, or, as was his fate today, executed. Those who support and follow him will continue to do so, as will those who wish to one day be like him. Even in prison he would have eventually been forgotten by all except the few and the media.
If he was imprisoned for life, he would still be able to speak his hatred from his prison cell. He would have found ways to stir up trouble as he was very obviously unrepentant and unremorseful for his crimes.
Scooter 12-30-2006, 10:09 AM Guy's as the impending execution of one of this worlds evil tyrants is nearing, i would ask for you all to include in your prayers tonight and tomorrow as i will the thousands of soul's whom have been affected by his mayhem.
I will never forget the pictures broadcast several years ago of the men, women and children lying dead from gas poisioning in northern Iraq. I have never had nor never think i will have any interest in the so called politics behind these people and their movements, though no soul on this earth deserves the death and destruction which have came to their lives through one mans beliefs.
I ask we just remember them at this time rather than the man whom caused it all.
Whoopee! Another one bites the dust.
If there wasn't oil in Iraq he would still be alive. Just 90 miles south of Miami is another tyrant but no oil so no overthrow. The good news is Cuba’s oil production is growing so maybe someday they will rank high enough to be free as well. What about the millions dying in Africa under the crush of dictators? We ignore them. The millions dying of aids, malaria, starvation etc...
The 100’s of billions of dollars spent to kill Saddam would have made one hell of an impact on world hunger, medical advancement and the advancement of peace but no, we (the US people and government) focus on war and oil!
This is just my RANT so take nothing personal and I am going back to focusing on a world of peace where I can dive of the shores of Cuba or in the Red sea without any fear of attack!
Jennihul 12-30-2006, 11:09 AM Karma happens......
Yes. It does. And it happens to humanity as a whole. Not just individuals.
It's humanity's karma I fret about.
Jennifer
GR8FL2BME 12-30-2006, 12:15 PM Yes. It does. And it happens to humanity as a whole. Not just individuals.
It's humanity's karma I fret about.
But you are one of the people who participate actively in the "awakening" that's happening....and that "awakening" is going to change the world for the better. :)
Jennihul 12-30-2006, 01:12 PM We can only hope, Jules :)
Jennifer
Tachyon 12-30-2006, 03:00 PM If killing Sadam is right thing to do because of his crimes then Bush should also be put on trial and face the same fate by your own logic.
Bush had directly given the orders that killed of 10 of thousands innocent Iraqis. Bush has openly stated it is his policy to torture, without trial. Not to mention of course Sadam got his power and weapons from the US in the first place, which people in Bushes administration had a direct hand in.
The hypocrisy of saying its good to see Sadam killed for his crimes is sickening.
If you find pleasure or satisfaction in the death of another, you are no different than Sadam and you are part of the problem and not part of the solution.
Killing is wrong. (period)
KahunaGrande 12-30-2006, 03:10 PM If killing Sadam is right thing to do because of his crimes then Bush should also be put on trial and face the same fate by your own logic.
Bush had directly given the orders that killed of 10 of thousands innocent Iraqis. Bush has openly stated it is his policy to torture, without trial. Not to mention of course Sadam got his power and weapons from the US in the first place, which people in Bushes administration had a direct hand in.
The hypocrisy of saying its good to see Sadam killed for his crimes is sickening.
If you find pleasure or satisfaction in the death of another, you are no different than Sadam and you are part of the problem and not part of the solution.
Killing is wrong. (period)Whatever Mas.
thinktom 12-30-2006, 03:38 PM "If you find pleasure or satisfaction in the death of another, you are no different than Sadam and you are part of the problem and not part of the solution."
If you seriously believe that, you need a little help yourself. Saddam was executed under his country's laws. If you deal drugs in Canada, you live. If you deal drugs in Thailand, you die.
If he lived in Canada, he would rot in prison, which would also be fine with me.
Your horse is riding a little too high. I'll wait for the 'Bush thread' to comment on the rest of your rant.
joanne1216 12-30-2006, 04:06 PM :popcorn:
Corinne Friesen 12-30-2006, 04:26 PM :popcorn:
:biglaugh:
Tachyon 12-30-2006, 04:26 PM :popcorn:
That is the best use of an icon I have ever seen!!
MantaRayz 12-30-2006, 04:27 PM If beobeobeobeobeobeooooooooo balbalbal ...........
Killing is wrong. (period)as is trollin'
Tachyon 12-30-2006, 04:28 PM "If you find pleasure or satisfaction in the death of another, you are no different than Sadam and you are part of the problem and not part of the solution."
If you seriously believe that, you need a little help yourself. Saddam was executed under his country's laws. If you deal drugs in Canada, you live. If you deal drugs in Thailand, you die.
If he lived in Canada, he would rot in prison, which would also be fine with me.
Your horse is riding a little too high. I'll wait for the 'Bush thread' to comment on the rest of your rant.
At least you know I will never kill you no matter how wrong I think you are.
I know I need help - I'm actually spending time posting on this forum! ;)
joanne1216 12-30-2006, 04:53 PM That is the best use of an icon I have ever seen!!
Thank you! :kiss:
joanne1216 12-30-2006, 04:53 PM At least you know I will never kill you no matter how wrong I think you are.
I know I need help - I'm actually spending time posting on this forum! ;)
:biglaugh: He's funny too!!!!!
Masera 12-30-2006, 06:12 PM If you can't seriously understand that killing someone because they killed doesn't make sense, then you do not understand death.
It's not about fair treatment, it's not about what he deserved. What he deserves is not one death, it is hundreds. We are not God's as a culture how can we support murder?
Murder is WRONG, there are no if's ands or but's about it. This is a core knowledge that God gave to everyone. His death will not make amends to his dead, nor will it help stop the tears of the families he's destroied. I am with the Pope on this one.
Corinne Friesen 12-30-2006, 06:25 PM Saddam was executed under his country's laws. If you deal drugs in Canada, you live. If you deal drugs in Thailand, you die.
If he lived in Canada, he would rot in prison, which would also be fine with me.
I don't think that was the point of Tachyon's post. I think it was: if you sling mud you get mud on you; if we look like a duck, walk like a duck, quack like a duck, we're a duck; if we kill innocent people, and kill in retaliation for perceived injuries, actively condone torture and take pleasure in our enemies death and suffering - as Sadam did, then ...
Masera 12-30-2006, 07:43 PM then ...
We Are Murderers.
thinktom 12-30-2006, 07:45 PM I don't think that was the point of Tachyon's post. I think it was: if you sling mud you get mud on you; if we look like a duck, walk like a duck, quack like a duck, we're a duck; if we kill innocent people, and kill in retaliation for perceived injuries, actively condone torture and take pleasure in our enemies death and suffering - as Sadam did, then ...
I fully understand Tachyon's post and you only quoted part of mine. My point is just because I think he got what he deserved does not make me some kind of supporter of death, torture, etc..etc...
If the death penalty were voted on here in Canada, I would vote against it. Saddam got what he knew he would get in his own country. Just because I say that, does not make me 'part of the problem' as Tachyon suggested.
Tachyon said "you are no different than Sadam and you are part of the problem and not part of the solution".
I strongly, strongly disagree, Corinne.
Since you are from B.C., you might know about that young, 24 year old teacher from Port Moody who is in a Thailand jail because of dealing drugs. Do I think he deserves to spend the rest of his life there? Absolutely not. It's a horrifying story and I cried when I read the interview with his father. Do I think he got what he deserved because he didn't follow the laws of another country. Yes, and so did Saddam.
Tachyon 12-30-2006, 10:25 PM http://static.crooksandliars.com/2006/12/ap-poll-villain.jpg
http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20061228005253&newsLang=en
FYI
Seems Americans think Bush is bigger villain than Sadam.
I guess Bush is lucky he isn't facing the same 'justice' as Sadam.
;)
Peaceful Warrior 12-30-2006, 10:31 PM Rather than Killing Saddam why not put him to good use, building homes for the poor, Cleaning up Iraq, Making him appologize for everyone he killed ect..
Just a thought?
applewormy 12-30-2006, 11:00 PM If your body has a tumor, remove it. If it grows back, remove it again...
Funnysoul 12-30-2006, 11:15 PM If we practice an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth,
soon the whole world will be blind and toothless.
Mahatma Gandhi
Batman 12-31-2006, 12:28 AM Killing is wrong. (period)
Based on what, no moral absolutes person?
and for the record, I am genuinely seeking information not being a smart ass.
Jennihul 12-31-2006, 08:25 AM http://static.crooksandliars.com/2006/12/ap-poll-villain.jpg
http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20061228005253&newsLang=en
FYI
Seems Americans think Bush is bigger villain than Sadam.
I guess Bush is lucky he isn't facing the same 'justice' as Sadam.
;)
Very lucky. But the lawyers aren't done yet so we'll see. Especially since Saddam, in his most "dangerous" incarnation, was a product that if you looked underneath would be stamped "MADE IN THE USA."
Now THAT'S some impressive hypocrisy. Kinda makes you wonder who on Earth would be stupid enough to ally with the USA. Ever.
Jennifer
Jennihul 12-31-2006, 08:26 AM If your body has a tumor, remove it. If it grows back, remove it again...
Regardless of how much damage is done each time? Good thing you aren't an MD. ;)
Jennifer
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