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Cemiess 07-16-2004, 04:47 PM I'm not what you'd call an alcoholic but I don't like the amount of alcohol I drink. How much do I drink? Well, the answer to that is SOME. And that's what I don't like.
It does nothing for me but make me ache in the morning, and do all sorts of damage to my brain and liver. Very occasionally I overdo it and then I vommit until nothing more comes out and then some. Evenings are wasted and conversations happen that are possibly very productive but are forgotten about the next day. I'm risking my licence by driving the next morning (although I feel alright I'm sure the blood content % is borderline) and I've been having very unproductive days at work.
Yet I still do it. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH ME?
I gave up smoking because I realised what a stupid thing it was but alcohol is a bit different. I want to go to the pub occasionally to socialise but the choice and price of soft drinks sends me straight to the alcohol. Also it tastes a lot better than cigarettes and I often drink just for the taste of beer. Like I say, I'm not an alcoholic, I only drink some evenings, but I want to stop as badly as an alcoholic.
It's a bit of a personal ongoing struggle, but any advice would be very very welcome. Can anybody else associate with this?
MantaRayz 07-16-2004, 05:59 PM Yet I still do it. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH ME? You are a Human! Thats all!
What is your level of commitment to be a non-drinker? Let's take a look ...... OK?
but the choice and price of soft drinks sends me straight to the alcohol.
This is a BullSh*t reason if ever I heard one. You'll need a better one than this!
I gave up smoking because I realised what a stupid thing it was but alcohol is a bit different.
how is it "different" Liquid instead of a gas?
I'm not an alcoholic, I only drink some evenings, but I want to stop as badly as an alcoholic.
an Alcoholic DOESN'T want to stop .... until much later.
.... and I often drink just for the taste of beer.
Ok ..... you'll continue to because of this.
So far, you have FAR MORE REASON TO Drink than not to. What are your Reasons, your WHYs to be a non-drinker? Until you identify them, and passionatly associate to them, you will continue to use excuses like shown above to continue your current form of socialization and rationalization.
Visualize WHAT YOU WANT - not what you don't want.
Do Your List of Reasons.
NOW
MeredithinCO 07-16-2004, 06:08 PM It does nothing for me but make me ache in the morning, and do all sorts of damage to my brain and liver. Very occasionally I overdo it and then I vommit until nothing more comes out and then some. Evenings are wasted and conversations happen that are possibly very productive but are forgotten about the next day. I'm risking my licence by driving the next morning (although I feel alright I'm sure the blood content % is borderline) and I've been having very unproductive days at work.
What is the difference in cost between a soft drink and beer? Is it worth all of that (above)? I believe that the cost justification is an excuse you tell yourself, but if it really is a driving force for you, how about breaking down the longterm financial costs of:
1. having your drivers license revoked and having to pay Court fees.
2. medical costs related to possible liver damage or other health problems related to drinking.
3. not making as much money at work because you are having unproductive days at work.
Cemiess 07-16-2004, 06:13 PM So far, you have FAR MORE REASON TO Drink than not to. What are your Reasons, your WHYs to be a non-drinker? Until you identify them, and passionatly associate to them, you will continue to use excuses like shown above to continue your current form of socialization and rationalization.
Visualize WHAT YOU WANT - not what you don't want.
Do Your List of Reasons.
NOW
Thanks for the advice. I do think there are many positive reasons for stopping.
I won't feel like crap the next day.
I'm protecting my liver and brain.
I will save money.
I will have a clearer head to be more productive.
I will make better use of my time.
I will will have productive conversations that I can remember.
And I can tell you for sure that I passionately associate to them all. Maybe I should focus on them more.
:hmm:
Cemiess 07-16-2004, 06:36 PM You are a Human! Thats all!
Wow - that is a groundless excuse if ever I heard one. That could be a get out clause for anything couldn't it?!!
Sorry I shot that person, I'm only human....
Not only that, but it's undermining humans. That statement totally accepts any failure on the grounds that one is of a certain biological specification.
Our conciousnesses allow us to break free from this "only human" mentallity - we can be anything - from only basic human to the most powerful creative force in the universe.
MantaRayz 07-17-2004, 01:04 AM OK, you've got all the answers for your situation. What are some more?
Just going by most of your last two posts, I really don't think you want to quit drinking. But are just using it as an excuse for your fear of actually succeeding. So until you want to put a little more effort into it, you're going to get the same results.
MantaRayz 07-17-2004, 01:10 AM Our conciousnesses allow us to break free from this "only human" mentallity - we can be anything - from only basic human to the most powerful creative force in the universe.Then use this to set up what you want. Because You are right. It is only us that stand in our own way.
So how are you now going to step out of the way of what it is you REALLY WANT? the drinking thing is just an excuse. just an obstical. just another brick in the wall we place in front of ourselves.
Define what you really want, and you'll have your own answer.
jlknauff 07-18-2004, 10:01 PM Don't take this the wrong way, but if you want to stop and you are unable-then you ARE an alcoholic. Now, if you don't like it and you are serious about stoping then I would suggest getting some professional help such as a 12 step program or something similar.
Another thing that could help you considerably is to start exercising daily. :yippee: After a little while you will begin to feel so good that you won't even have the desire to drink.
If you have a problem you really need to do something about it before it gets out of hand. Kill the monster while it's still a baby. If you wait another 5, 10, or 20 years maybe you will have all of the problems you mentioned you could run into or maybe you could just be lulled into complacency and not accomplish any of your goals. Either way, I'm sure that that's not the direction you want to go. Best of luck to you.
MantaRayz 07-21-2004, 12:44 AM REAL Success comes from pushing through that that we feel is in our way. That that we have identified as an obstical to growth.
So ..... have you made a decision Ceimess?
Cemiess 07-21-2004, 04:10 PM REAL Success comes from pushing through that that we feel is in our way. That that we have identified as an obstical to growth.
So ..... have you made a decision Ceimess?
It is an obstacle in the way of my success, and I will conquer it. I've started exercising daily and I have lost the desire to drink. (There's a lot to be said about the alive feeling you get - I MUST keep it up) Also, I now just think of all the negatives, and the desire is wiped out completely. Then I grab a pint of water, and I feel much better than I did after a pint of beer.
Let's see if I can keep it up.
jlknauff 07-21-2004, 04:16 PM Outstanding! You absolutely can if it is important to you. Best of luck and keep us posted on your progress.
MantaRayz 07-21-2004, 09:26 PM Yes, Excellent! The necessary component most people miss ..... to replace with a positive instead of only taking away the negative.
Continued Success!
~ Stan ~
Sonja 04-03-2005, 04:07 PM Well I think it's a "Social Distortion" problem maybe! You like to socialize however the place where socializing is more popular happens to be the local pub or bar whatever....and it's fun there....and drinking adds courage I guess to be that social butterfly we all lie to be....! BUT you need to know whben enough is enough because when 2:am comes around those last 2 rounds at the bar have not even set in yet!
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