What The #$*! Do We Know


www.WhatTheBleep.com (http://www.whatthebleep.com/)


What the Bleep? is centered on the Power of Thought, and the ability of each of us to control and create our external worlds experience, by Transforming our Inner Worlds beliefs and dialouges.

It's an indie film, and as such has an extremely limited screen run. You can go to the web site, and see where (if) it's near you. I suggest that if you really want to see the current thought of different scientific and philosophic views of Quantum Mechanics and Theory, as related to Human Thought and Experience, you will see no better explainations in a simplified and entertaining format.


SEE THIS MOVIE! 11 Stars rating!

Yeah, I definitely want to see this movie. Did you catch it in Encinitas?

I'm curious what they say about mysticism and science. I'm all for chucking mysticism and using pure, honest science.

It says it's showing at a Theatre here. But not until Sep. 10.

Hey, welcome Gregfolio!

Tom, do you mean at a theater here in San Diego - as in closer to mid-county maybe? The Encinitas venue says it's been held over for four weeks:

http://www.whatthebleep.com/showdates/

http://www.lapalomatheatre.com/

now showing at:
La Paloma Theater
Held Over for 4 weeks
471 S. Coast Hwy 101
Encinitas, CA 92024
Phone: 760-436-7469

Week Nights 6:45, 9:20 Except Thursday July 22
Weekends 4:00, 6:45, 9:20

They must really like it because they advertise it as, "HELDOVER INDEFINTELY".

And thanks for the welcome! It's great to be here at such a high-quality forum. :yippee:

Sorry, I meant here as in where I am...St. Louis. :)

Aye. Okay, Tom, now I see your location, or did you just add it to your profile recently?

How is the weather in St. Louis? :wave:

No, I always had the location in my profile. Well I think this is one of the most humid places on earth, and today it was very hot. I think it was around 100 with 70% humidity. So I wouldn't say the weather was nice today.

No, I always had the location in my profile. Well I think this is one of the most humid places on earth, and today it was very hot. I think it was around 100 with 70% humidity. So I wouldn't say the weather was nice today.Well, you could be in ....... hummmmmmm
ya could be in ........ that's not much different either ...........
well, you could be dead, and we all know where you' be then! :lildevil: I've heard it's a very HOT HEAT!

Yeah, I definitely want to see this movie. Did you catch it in Encinitas?

I'm curious what they say about mysticism and science. I'm all for chucking mysticism and using pure, honest science.

GregfolioYes, I saw it at the La Paloma. Real Theatre with Real Popcorn! Real Sunset afterwards! (sorry all! there really IS an Ocean that catches the big bright ball in the sky! and releases steam as a result ;) )

Mysticism & Science ...... I never really viewed them as being much different! Neither did many of the truly outstanding Minds of Science! To live only by one is to deny the existence of the other. Both are linked far more closely than most on either of the 'sides' know or care to admit.

Mysticism & Science ...... I never really viewed them as being much different! Neither did many of the truly outstanding Minds of Science! To live only by one is to deny the existence of the other. Both are linked far more closely than most on either of the 'sides' know or care to admit.


When honest science can prove the existence of something like "God" or "elves", then I'll believe it. Otherwise, it is a waste of my valuable time to ponder mystical ideas. I have too much on my list to accomplish - and it's all value creating without any use of or regard for mysticism.

If the average life-span is 75 years, which equates to only 900 months, then how much of your time have you used to ponder things that may not be real? I drank the purple Koolaide at an early age and wasted most of my life believing in mystical things like religion. As I've stated in other ways in other posts, if it works for you, then do it!

Although many scientific minds believe that science and mysticism go hand in hand, it doesn't mean that those "authorities" are correct or that it is in a scientist's best interest to blend mysticism and science together. To me, mysticism is not based on reality. Pure science is based on reality. Mysticism and science are not even opposite sides of the same proverbial coin. I'll use objective reality to perform my scientific processes and research, and it will always be completely devoid of mysticism. Just because a genius claims mysticism should be part of science doesn't make me believe the validity of that claim. I think it is a misguided error to make a statement like that without any proof.

Mysticism is created by humans and it is rarely factual. Nature and physics (and things we have yet to discover and prove) are based on factual reality.

Mysticism is also a dying scam. More and more people are finding that self-authority and objective reality are the better routes, and that creating values is one of the best ways to generate happiness. I am so glad I dumped mysticism and I will never go back.

By the way, the burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. If you claim that something is real and you have verifiable scientific proof, then I will believe you.

If advanced biological beings on other planets have learned how to harness reality on a grand scale, then maybe they know how to preserve at biological death what I consider to be the greatest aspect of the universe – our consciousnesses. However, I'm not going to live my life based on that possibility. Since there is no verifiable proof to the contrary, I'm assuming that there is nothing after death, and it's important to me to live my life as long as possible so that I can create as much as possible.

If God does exist, I'm sure he/she/it is happy that I'm honest with myself and others, and that I'm doing what I love to do.

Greg,

If you are waiting for Science to 'prove' something to you, you yourself know you'll be in for a long wait. and then another long wait until the next 'discovery' comes along. and maybe a much shorter wait for the next. and then a .......

I'd forgotten NeoTech aversion to things not physically seen or proven. So I can understand your statements and desire for validation.

You are correct .... self-evaluation is essential to knowledge and Wisdom.
And to leading a Healthy and Valued and Purpose-Driven Life. This is just me talking right now (and in saying this, I know I am speaking for many) but I have found that sometimes, those self-evaluations step pretty far aside of what current science can (or even want to) show, but later is studied and validated and shown to be 'true.'

Not all in this Physical Sphere is able to be 'seen', or is even apparent. Those new things are 'found' all the time. Adding to the provable realities of the World.

As posted on another thread, I am curoious about how you define reality, and how your methods of manipulating reality to your benefit differs from other approaches. I'd appreciate an illustration or explaination. without the need of studying the whole of neotech ot its many links.

Thanks!

~ Stan ~

I'm just getting back to the online-computer-swing of things. I attended four full days (out of 5) of the Comic Con International here in San Diego this last week. It was my first time although I've lived here in sunny San Diego since way before the first Comic convention 35 years ago. I'm considering renting a booth next year to sell my astronomy-theme paintings and to network with movie producers or other people in that biz.

Anyway, to get to your questions and comments, MantaRayz-Stan, I'm not waiting for science to prove anything to me. If science does prove something and I hear about it and it is something I'm interested in knowing, then I'll probably investigate the findings. Waiting is only beneficial for certain things. Back in my mystical days, I wasted too much precious time in waiting for particular things. Scientific breakthroughs can happen at any time, or they may never happen. Let's dump the governmental regulations and see what happens. Honest business and scientific research could skyrocket!

I agree that not all that is real is known to us and some of existence may never be completely known to us. Reality to me is that which we can experience with our senses or that which we can verifiably measure with scientific instruments. What parts of reality severely restrict scientific advancements and hamper our knowledge of reality? Religious organizations and governments that want to control us are the biggest culprits in stifling our progress and in defrauding us into believing crap.

My process in orchestrating my future and my reality is not that different from other systems. I formulate a goal in my mind and I take supportive action to achieve that goal. My main point is that I can do it without any speck of mysticism - i.e. I don't consult or pray to any higher authority or entity such as "God" in order to get direction or insight or approval, and I don't have to trick myself or force-feed my subconscious in order to achieve what I want. I'll occasionally consult with people or existing information in order to help me take action, but I don't completely rely on anyone else. If I receive input from outside sources, I'll carefully analyze the information to make sure that it supports my goals. Ultimately, I always make my own final decisions.

Why do I paint? I paint because I love the vision in my head enough to bring it into existence. Therefore, I paint out of love of the potential creation. The finished painting is what I consider to be an added value or benefit to my life. If someone likes or even loves one of my paintings enough to purchase it, then they are adding a created value to their life.

As Cemiess has stated, in this context, value is a tradable commodity or service. I create valuable works of art, photography, and writings because I love the things I create and I'm very happy with many of my works. Sure, perceived value is in the mind of the beholder, and I have had enough people tell me that my creations are beautiful. That also makes me happy and is an added bonus - to be able to inspire happiness in other people. However, I don't create to gain adoration or approval or to make other people happy.

As a computer programmer, I produce valuable work for the company that hired me. I add value to the company by producing the best and most efficient programs to accomplish the goals of the company. When a customer purchases our product, it's because they see the value that it can add to their company.

What The #$*! Do We Know


www.WhatTheBleep.com (http://www.whatthebleep.com/)


What the Bleep? is centered on the Power of Thought, and the ability of each of us to control and create our external worlds experience, by Transforming our Inner Worlds beliefs and dialouges.

It's an indie film, and as such has an extremely limited screen run. You can go to the web site, and see where (if) it's near you. I suggest that if you really want to see the current thought of different scientific and philosophic views of Quantum Mechanics and Theory, as related to Human Thought and Experience, you will see no better explainations in a simplified and entertaining format.


SEE THIS MOVIE! 11 Stars rating!


They've finally been picked up by a major distributor for their National September release to theaters:

http://www.whatthebleep.com/mailing/

What The Bleep is now out on DVD.

I saw "What the Bleep" and it is a great movie. A little sketchy on the particulars (you'll want to read a good quantum text to provide some meat) and the story is a little confusing. But I'm nit picking. It's a wonderful, thought-provoking film.

One of the fundamental extrapolations from quantum mechanics is that thoughts are things. In fact, all matter is nothing more than our materialized thoughts. This can be traced all the way back to Heisenburg's Uncertaintly Principle which introduced the world to the reality of the quantum leap made by electrons.

It's funny to think that just a little over a hundred years ago, despite the work of Mendel, Miescher, and Morgan, everyone thought it absurd to think of a human gene as something real that we could actually "pluck" out of our body. A gene, everyone knew, was as insubstantial as a thought.

Today we think of thoughts the same way that we used to think of a human gene. But Heisenburg showed us that absolutely nothing in our material world is certain and, many quantum scientists believe, we are close to discovering exactly what thoughts are and how we use them. Just as we discovered what a human gene is and unlocked almost all the amazing mysteries surrounding it.

(For example, did you know that if you physically strung together all the DNA contained in your cells into a single strand, that strand would reach the moon and, perhaps, come all the way back to earth? Is that wild or what?)

Thanks for reading my two cents.

It all starts with a SMILE! So keep smiling.

What The #$*! Do We Know


www.WhatTheBleep.com (http://www.whatthebleep.com/)


What the Bleep? is centered on the Power of Thought, and the ability of each of us to control and create our external worlds experience, by Transforming our Inner Worlds beliefs and dialouges.

It's an indie film, and as such has an extremely limited screen run. You can go to the web site, and see where (if) it's near you. I suggest that if you really want to see the current thought of different scientific and philosophic views of Quantum Mechanics and Theory, as related to Human Thought and Experience, you will see no better explainations in a simplified and entertaining format.


SEE THIS MOVIE! 11 Stars rating!

What The Bleep Does Jules Know? I Know That If Manta gives a Movie 11 Stars, we'd better see it !!!! :yup:

What The Bleep Does Jules Know? I Know That If Manta gives a Movie 11 Stars, we'd better see it !!!! :yup:

Jules.....YOU haven't seen What the Bleep??? :yikes: Get with the program Chica...run don't walk to your video store....lol.......this is one not to be misssed!

Jules.....YOU haven't seen What the Bleep??? :yikes: Get with the program Chica...run don't walk to your video store....lol.......this is one not to be misssed!

I actually recently bought the book at B&N....it was so colorful, and with its shiny, slick pages, it reminded me of a college textbook.

But I definitely want to see the movie. :thumb:

I actually recently bought the book at B&N....it was so colorful, and with its shiny, slick pages, it reminded me of a college textbook.

But I definitely want to see the movie. :thumb:

There's a book??? Who knew? Hmmm..wonder if it's too late to add that to my Santa list???

What The Bleep Does Jules Know? I Know That If Manta gives a Movie 11 Stars, we'd better see it !!!! :yup: The Squirreling talks with straight tongue.

Make sure You get the "Down the Rabbit Hole" version. It has about 9 additional hours of Interviews! From those of Science as well as the MetaPhysical.

EnJoy!

The Squirreling talks with straight tongue.

Make sure You get the "Down the Rabbit Hole" version. It has about 9 additional hours of Interviews! From those of Science as well as the MetaPhysical.

EnJoy!

Will Do! I've been having lots of fun perusing the "finely aged" threads, and I thought this one was worth bringing back! :hug:

And you were right! :)

Jennifer