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Gregfolio
07-27-2004, 05:25 PM
:biglaugh:

One of my brothers sent this link a few weeks ago. Most of you may have already clicked through to the hilarious animation - Bush vs. Kerry:

http://www.jibjab.com

Click on "This Land" image.

People from AtomFilms were at Comic Con International, and at that time they said they were getting 2 million hits a day.

Funfolio

Cemiess
07-28-2004, 01:17 AM
2 MILLION HITS A DAY!??

I want to know how they got the word out!

That just shows how much topical content can bring the punters in.:D

Gregfolio
07-28-2004, 03:27 AM
2 MILLION HITS A DAY!??

I want to know how they got the word out!

That just shows how much topical content can bring the punters in.:D

I think most of it is word of mouth that is spreading like wildfire! Everyone I show it to at work thinks it is hilarious and they plan to tell their circle of friends and relatives.

By the way, I'm voting everything Libertarian this election. I hate the Democrat and Republican philosophies, and Libertarianism is the only political party that is the closest to the Cosmopolitan Party. The Cosmopolitan Party is not even eligible to be listed on the ballots yet and there are no candidates for any local or Federal offices.

http://cosmopolitanparty.localgroup.net/manifesto/

Let's get rid of the parasites - starting with the politicians that produce nothing of value!

MantaRayz
07-28-2004, 05:39 AM
2 MILLION HITS A DAY!??

I want to know how they got the word out!

That just shows how much topical content can bring the punters in.:DAbsolutely! A lot of it is timing, and because the cartoon is not one-sided. It shows BOTH sides in their full ...... abilities. :biglaugh:

Tom
07-29-2004, 02:10 AM
Hilarious. :thumb:

Interesting how these things spread so fast.

Tom
07-29-2004, 02:14 AM
By the way, I'm voting everything Libertarian this election. I hate the Democrat and Republican philosophies, and Libertarianism is the only political party that is the closest to the Cosmopolitan Party. The Cosmopolitan Party is not even eligible to be listed on the ballots yet and there are no candidates for any local or Federal offices.




I tend to look at voting for alternative parties as a waste of a vote. It's going to be a Dem. or Rep., so I say vote for the lesser of two evils.

To me, there is no contest as to which one that is, but I guess I'll keep that to myself. :D

Gregfolio
07-29-2004, 03:34 AM
I tend to look at voting for alternative parties as a waste of a vote. It's going to be a Dem. or Rep., so I say vote for the lesser of two evils.

To me, there is no contest as to which one that is, but I guess I'll keep that to myself. :D

Yeah, I know what you mean about wasting votes. I look at me voting Libertarian more as a protest vote against the established two party monopoly. And since I've voted only one other time throughout my entire voter eligibility, me voting Libertarian won't be missed. Until recently, I've been completely apathetic about politicians and the whole political process. :bonk:

Cemiess
07-29-2004, 07:10 AM
I tend to look at voting for alternative parties as a waste of a vote. It's going to be a Dem. or Rep., so I say vote for the lesser of two evils.

To me, there is no contest as to which one that is, but I guess I'll keep that to myself. :D
That attitude is exactly why democracy doesn't work.

In England one party (The UK Independence Party) was little known a couple of years ago, and it is now beating the main 3 parties in some areas. That's because it's doing the usual political thing of appealling to what people want to hear. And in England people got fed up with conservatives, so we voted labour in, now we're fed up with labour, we're looking elsewhere. The UKIP have filled that gap.

I hope they don't get in because they're not very liberal - and liberty is what we need to thrive and for each of us to be successful! (As well as a severe culling of all socialism!!) :thumb: :thumb:

Gregfolio
07-29-2004, 01:48 PM
I totally agree with you, Cemiess! The only way to make the Democratic process work and to make changes is to vote new political parties and people in. For the first time in my lifetime, I feel that many Americans are fed up with the lying, cheating, self-interests, special-interests, over-taxing, over-controlling, parasitical elite in government. I want a government that is simply a custodian to our country and individual freedoms. Many politicians, law-makers, judges, and governmental agencies create and back bogus "ego" laws that simply make those "authorities" look important and look like they are doing something for us, when in reality they are getting their stinking hands around our throats even tighter. :banghead:

Tom, it's too bad this forum doesn't have millions of viewers and/or members that could effectively vote a huge dent into the "evil" Republican and "evil" Democratic camps. Let's shock the $#!+ ( :eek: ) out of America and the world and vote for anything BUT Democrat or Republican or their special interest initiatives and propositions. However, we don't need another political party in charge that will create more agencies or laws that will strip away more of our freedoms, or spread the wealth and create a bigger lazy-class ( :snooze: ) of people.

Cosmofolio

MeredithinCO
07-29-2004, 04:01 PM
I tend to look at voting for alternative parties as a waste of a vote. It's going to be a Dem. or Rep., so I say vote for the lesser of two evils.

To me, there is no contest as to which one that is, but I guess I'll keep that to myself. :D

Because of the electoral college, the degree to which this is true depends on the state you live in and how close the race is going to be in that state. If you live in a state like Colorado where the electoral vote will undoubtably go to Bush, its not a waste of a vote to vote for someone like Nader for example. Personally, I was a fan of the "Nader Trader" concept in the last presidential election. My vote for Gore was worthless in Colorado but sure would've carried some weight in Florida!

MeredithinCO
07-30-2004, 12:24 AM
Because of the electoral college, the degree to which this is true depends on the state you live in and how close the race is going to be in that state. If you live in a state like Colorado where the electoral vote will undoubtably go to Bush, its not a waste of a vote to vote for someone like Nader for example. Personally, I was a fan of the "Nader Trader" concept in the last presidential election. My vote for Gore was worthless in Colorado but sure would've carried some weight in Florida!

*Correction:
Did some research tonight and learned that Colorado is no longer considered a "solid Bush" state, but is now considered a "leaning towards Bush" state.

MantaRayz
07-30-2004, 02:51 AM
Let's shock the $#!+ ( :eek: ) out of America and the world and vote for anything BUT Democrat or Republican or their special interest initiatives and propositions. Did Someone Call?

I'll remind you all the I am fully able to accept election on the basis of the Write-In Process. On the issues .... where do I stand?

Foreign Policy .... I'm all for it! It's a good thing!
War Record ....... I just bought a DVD of the "Grapes of Wrath" for $0.99 I saw "Apocalypse Now" too!
Ecomony .......... I drove a Honda Civic for several years. I don't drive a Hummer. also ..... see above.
Housing ............ I'd consider any bill that addresses addresses.
Sex in the Movies ..... As long as they're not "seated" next to me. *
Abortion ........... I'm all in favor of terminating first, second and third trimester wasteful expenses and positions.
Education ......... I'm all for more personalized training from Teachers! especially more like Miss Parker in my senior Drama Class! MEOWZA!
Foreign Trade .... I'd establish an "International Home-Swap Month" with several friendly nations
Taxes .............. I'd consider dividing it into 3 distince individual states. what? not Texas? OH! TAXES! I'd tax the sh*t out of movies taking in more than $13.5 million. And demand popcorn prices be returned to 1979 levels. With REAL butter too!
Espionage ......... I'd order air strikes against the neighborhood harboring anyone suspected of creating or disseminating ANY SpyWare or KeyStroke Trackers. Spam offenders as well! BEWARE ELECTRO-ASSH*LES!

So you see, My Fellow (and Fella:-) Americans, My Intent is to bring back the Honest Values that made America Great in the First Place ..... To Bring Back the "Whatever It Takes - Make It Happen" Attitude ..... To Be a Leader of the FUN PARTY!

As our Slogan sez ...... Vote Once - Vote Often!



*unless they invite me to play too! :yippee:

Cemiess
07-30-2004, 03:03 AM
I tend to look at voting for alternative parties as a waste of a vote. It's going to be a Dem. or Rep., so I say vote for the lesser of two evils.

To me, there is no contest as to which one that is, but I guess I'll keep that to myself. :D
Just reading that again that has really annoyed me. Did you ever see that episode of the Simpsons, where there were 2 aliens running for government? They said: "Well you have to vote for one of us, it's a two party system!" then someone says, "I'm going to vote for a third party!", and they reply "Go on then, waste your vote!!"

How very true.

If we all followed the crowd we'd end up trapped in a two party system that controls us with an iron claw, and we'd never develop, and the world would be completely restrained by regulations and leaders with unearned power. Oh, hang on.....

:banghead:

Tom
07-30-2004, 03:41 AM
To me, it has absolutely nothing to do with following any crowd. It has to do with one, facing the reality of the situation, and two, it being deadly serious business. It's going to be either Bush or Kerry come January, unless of course something happens to one of them, in which case you could say it's going to be either a Democrat or Republican.

Cemiess
08-12-2004, 07:30 AM
To me, it has absolutely nothing to do with following any crowd. It has to do with one, facing the reality of the situation, and two, it being deadly serious business. It's going to be either Bush or Kerry come January, unless of course something happens to one of them, in which case you could say it's going to be either a Democrat or Republican.


FROM http://www.neo-tech.com/pax-b1/c1.php
Politics, religion, and philosophy rise from truths manipulated into illusions. Neo-Tech sweeps away those illusions. For example, consider the gold-bar illusion of politicians -- “I’m compassionate. I have a heart. I’m going to use government to help the little guy”. Neo-Techexposes them as outlaw neocheaters. As explained later in this first scene, neocheaters are camouflaged criminals who usurp unearned livelihoods by stealing and then redistributing wealth earned by others. From such hidden thefts, neocheaters glean unearned money, power, and praise.

Existing on parasitism and schadenfreude, those neocheaters have the coldest hearts and ultimately impoverish the ‘little guy’. They are frauds who make illicit gains by feigning compassion. Such neocheaters include crusading to-save-just-one-life-is-worth-it politicians, lawyers, clergymen, academics, journalists, celebrities. They are not only hypocritical mountebanks, but they are hidden killers of innocent people. For every life they claim to help or save, they are responsible for the degradations and killings of countless innocent lives via corrupt political laws and destructive bureaucratic regulations.

Those self-righteous elites -- those parasitical elites -- cause countless human sufferings and millions of hidden deaths. They bring costs-of-living increases and decreasing standards-of-living to everyone. Their cold-hearted parasitisms bring impoverishments, starvations, and deaths to the world’s poorest populations.

Such smug, comfortably-ensconced neocheaters relentlessly sow sufferings and deprivations among worldwide populations via, for example, spurious global-warming regulations, save the snail-darter-type mandates, DDT-herbicide-pesticide bannings, ‘fuel-efficiency’ laws, FDA ‘health-protection’ regulations, class-action tort lawsuits, plus countless other net-destructive actions documented throughout the Neo-Tech literature. …The hidden killings of innocents by such parasitical elites exceed by orders of magnitude the open killings of innocents by wars, tyrants, and terrorists. Over their 2500-year history, those neocheaters usurped their illicit livelihoods by harming and killing billions of innocent people -- yes, billions.

Cemiess
08-12-2004, 07:32 AM
The Constitution of the Universe
(1976)
Preamble

*The purpose of conscious life is to live creatively, happily, eternally.

*The function of government is to provide the conditions that let individuals fulfill that purpose. The Constitution of the Universe guarantees those conditions by forbidding the use of initiatory force, fraud, or coercion by any person or group against any individual.

***
Article 1

No person, group of persons, or government shall initiate force, threat of force, or fraud against any individual's self or property.

Article 2

Force is morally-and-legally justified only for protection from those who violate Article 1.

Article 3

No exceptions shall exist for Articles 1 and 2.

* * *

Premises 1. Values exist only relative to life. 2. Whatever benefits a living organism is a value to that organism.

3. Whatever harms a living organism is a disvalue to that organism.

4. The value against which all values are measured is conscious life.

5. Morals apply only to conscious individuals.

* Immoral actions arise (1) from individuals who harm others through force, fraud, or coercion and (2) from individuals who usurp, degrade, or destroy values created or earned by others.

* Moral actions arise from individuals who honestly create and competitively produce values to benefit self, others, and society.


Source: http://www.neo-tech.com/pax-b1/a1.php

Cemiess
08-12-2004, 07:43 AM
What does everyone think about these ideas? I personally cannot see how we can continue living without them, as I've been exposed to them and their benefits in "The Story" (http://www.neo-tech.com/thestory) and other literature at http://www.neo-tech.com.

Now there is no way back - once you realise complete freedom can be attained it's impposible to go back. It's like waking up from "The Matrix".

If anyone has any objections to these ideas I'd be very interested to hear them. I've heard the obvious stuff before, "it's a cult" and "it's anarchy" and "how can we live forever" and all that stuff, so before you make comments like this make sure you've read enough Neo Tech stuff first to fully understand it (I would say that The Story would be the bare minimum you need to read.)

And one more thing, I'm not "preaching", merely presenting a possibility. You can have your own beliefs, but my "belief" (which it is not) has brought me nothing but immense success and happiness, so my arguement for it is the example I present. I personally don't care if you disagree, it makes no odds to me.

If you do agree, then I'm glad to have helped you, and give me a shout. Logical friends are hard to find.

Gregfolio
08-13-2004, 01:29 AM
I feel honored to call you friend, Cemiess. And I'm looking forward to a time when the majority of people see the logic in what is presented here.

Maybe we'll be the first immortals!

Gregfolio
09-22-2004, 03:38 AM
Getting back to the Politcal Humor...

What, no Libertarian makeovers?

Bush
http://www.gregfolio.com/00Bush.jpg

Cheney
http://www.gregfolio.com/00Cheney.jpg

Edwards
http://www.gregfolio.com/00Edwards.jpg

Kerry
http://www.gregfolio.com/00Kerry.jpg


Artist Unknown


:lildevil:

Gregfolio
10-01-2004, 01:17 PM
Just try voting Kerry-Edwards in impartial Florida:

http://wearabledissent.com/101/floridavote.html

:biglaugh:

jlknauff
10-01-2004, 07:49 PM
Maybe we'll be the first immortals! Sign me up :thumb:

Nice pics Greg

Tom
10-02-2004, 12:36 AM
I find them rather disturbing. :)

Gregfolio
10-08-2004, 01:40 PM
The comic geniuses at jibjab are at it again!

Check out "Good To Be In DC"

http://www.jibjab.com/