June 14, 2005 What is the Law of Attraction?

You can sum up the law of attraction in three simple words, LIKE ATTRACTS LIKE. Now before you hit the back button on the browser let me explain to you what this means to you. If you are reading this I will take the liberty to assume that you are interested in attracting a better life for yourself, there is something in your life which you feel like is not what you want it to be or in other words you feel you are lacking something. Why?
Most of us have grown up in an environment that tells us that Life is a Bitch, Or Life Sucks, or only the elite gorgeous or enlightened get wealthy, and SO…. this is what has become a reality in your life. You have created a life where this has manifested itself into your life. Also, how do I know that the law of attraction is true, how do so many people who have grown up in the absolute worst of conditions go on to become successful?? They Believed it and thought it, you see they saw themselves as being able to be successful (there was more to it as well, like acting as if) and so they become successful! So if I think that I can become rich and act as if I am already rich and don’t let anyone tell me differently I will become rich. This is a Law of Nature.
Make a decision today to live life abundantly, realize and confirm that there is more money on the planet than is needed and there is enough for everyone. Start acting as if you are successful, dress better, visualize what you think Rich people do and do them. And you will see yourself become more successful. Remember if you continue to focus on lack, you will get more lack, so don’t!


Make it a great One
Todd

Yes, Most of the people feeling lack.... No more poor, no sickness, better living..etc.

Remember the following:

BE-DO-HAVE. You need to BE before you DO and yu will HAVE!

I was diggin around and found my favorite subject posted about before it was my favorite subject! :)

I haven't finished The Master Key yet. Has anyone read it and done all the exercises?

Jennifer

June 14, 2005 What is the Law of Attraction?
You can sum up the law of attraction in three simple words, LIKE ATTRACTS LIKE...This is an interesting observation. It seems to me a law of nature that OPPOSITES ATTRACT -- not the other way round. Place two magnets north pole to north pole/ south pole to south pole and they will repel, won't they? But when you put them north pole to south pole/south pole to north pole, they attract. Isn't that how it works? Do we make close friends with people who are like ourselves or are we more attracted to people who complement us? Doesn't it take male and female to procreate, rather than two males or two females?

I don't see any sound argument that attraction is a law of nature that does not also provide that repulsion is a law of nature.

...Now before you hit the back button on the browser let me explain to you what this means to you. If you are reading this I will take the liberty to assume that you are interested in attracting a better life for yourself, there is something in your life which you feel like is not what you want it to be or in other words you feel you are lacking something. Why?
Most of us have grown up in an environment that tells us that Life is a Bitch, Or Life Sucks, or only the elite gorgeous or enlightened get wealthy...I have heard this assumption many times by people trying to prove something, but where does it come from? Where is the proof or logical argument that *most people* grew up believing that life was bad, tough, lacking or whatever? In todays' world - where more people die from obesity than from starvation - I cannot accept that without question. Especially in the developed world, to which most of us on this board belong, I would suspect.

...and SO…. this is what has become a reality in your life. You have created a life where this has manifested itself into your life...Well, there is some fine double-talk, I'm sorry to see. If you *create* a life - of any sort - it didn't *manifest itself* like mysteriously appear - you created it!

... Also, how do I know that the law of attraction is true, how do so many people who have grown up in the absolute worst of conditions go on to become successful?? ...How? By getting off their backsides and going to work, by taking action.

...They Believed it and thought it, you see they saw themselves as being able to be successful (there was more to it as well, like acting as if) and so they become successful! So if I think that I can become rich and act as if I am already rich and don’t let anyone tell me differently I will become rich. This is a Law of Nature. ..Unfortunately, just stating it does not make it so. It is not a law of nature any more than the opposite is a law of nature.

What *is* a law of nature, that proponents of LOA frequently overlook, is that taking action on something changes it. It could change it for the worse or for the better, but the law of action overrides the law of attraction/law of repulsion every time.

...Make a decision today to live life abundantly, realize and confirm that there is more money on the planet than is needed and there is enough for everyone. Start acting as if you are successful, dress better, visualize what you think Rich people do and do them. And you will see yourself become more successful. Remember if you continue to focus on lack, you will get more lack, so don’t! ....This last part is certainly true. It's awfully difficult to work towards bettering yourself when you are concentrating on the lack in your life. But this has nothing to do with some imaginary and mysterious attractive force in the universe, and a lot to do with getting off your butt and taking action.

I don't wish to rain on anyone's parade, but if we are going to deal in self-improvement, let's at least be honest about it. The law of attraction, as so often described, sets people up for disappointment and failure, believing that all they have to do - as per this article - is think about what they want, imagine they have it already, and wait for it to "manifest itself."

Ain't gonna happen! I wish it would! I feel for everyone who falls for this line.

It is wonderful and encouraging and absolutely true ONLY and PROVIDING you include the Law of Action in the formula.

Spider...spot on :thumb:

I couldn't have disected it better myself.

The fact that NLP works for so many people is proof that the things we think are true are often false and that the words we tell ourselves have amazing power over every nuance of our lives. Many times negatively.

Beliefs, whether literally true or not, shape us. The words we casually say to ourselves become embedded beliefs. The majority of people in this country are middle class. Middle class Americans, as a whole, were raised, in the last 40 years or so, to believe the majority of the things the thread starter stated. That was the conventional wisdom of the day. Many of those things are not, in essence, bad things, like working hard isn't bad, to me. But learning that you can only be successful if you work hard is very false. Or that you will probably not love your job. All of those things are/were conventional wisdom where I am from and all my friends and family believe it.

Maybe SPider grew up in a fairytale place.

I kind of scratched at the "like attracts like" too. If you are strictly speaking of magnets, it's false. But there are human aspects that prove it true. Very negative people who find fault in everything rarely are also called "happy" or "loving" or "super successful." In fact, every super-neg I know is stuck in some crappy, dead-end job that fulfills their prophecy on a daily basis. Very postive people seem to just attract positivity to them. So in the case of "vibes", I would say "like attracts like" is wholeheartedly true. Since we ARE talking about vibes with LOA, the argument against 'like attracts like' is kind of moot.

There aren't many people who believe in LOA that would emphatically state that you don't have to lift a finger and you will manifest, though that does often happen. As I have nauseatingly and patiently stated over and over, certain things simply WILL NOT manifest without work. Hard work. Lots of action. Other things, usually more amorphous things, can and do manifest without any action other than thought, which IS an action, don't forget. So why harp on that?

The thing I find kind of funny about the people that argue against LOA is that they are unknowingly utilizing it every day of their lives. Whether they are action-takers and attribute ALL of their success to action only, or simply "believers" that create and generate the appropriate vibe to make their dreams manifest. It's always working, it's always on. It's not a pick and choose option and you don't have to believe it works for it to work.

Jennifer

Just an observation ...

I've just started reading 'Think and Grow Rich' ... and can't help but notice the principles applied are very much along the lines of LOA.

Si, senorita. Wallace Wattles (The Science of Getting Rich), Napolean Hill (Think and Grow Rich), and Charles Haanel (The Master Key) must have hung out drinking martinis and smoking cigars. All their stuff is basically and fundamentally the same lesson in different formats.

Of course they weren't the originators. This knowledge predates Christ. :thumb:

Jennifer

Just an observation ...

I've just started reading 'Think and Grow Rich' ... and can't help but notice the principles applied are very much along the lines of LOA.

Napoleons teachings cover many of the Universal Laws. The Law of Attraction is singled out among the rest because it is more of a state of being that one should strive for.
Junto

I have to buy that book. :)

State of being, huh. That's kind of the part that I think Spider doesn't like about it. I personally feel it IS a state of being. a state of being that works! As in physically works to bring about change regardless of effort but not entirely devoid of effort.

Jennifer

I forget who said this but life is 50% who you are and 50% who people think you are. If you think it, act it and believe it, it doesn't take much for other people to start seeing you in a whole different light and that, in itself, will start attracting better situations for you. People want to do business with successful people. Kinda' worked for me. Oh, and ya' gotta' bust your hump as well. Preparation + opportunity = luck.

You should watch the movie..
then you understand.. why our thoughts is stopping us from claiming our deserving gifts..

we are not aligned when opportunities strike
we built fear we built doubt
we are not centered and focus..

Fear attracts fear..
Rich man thinks rewards
Poor man thinks risk

the law of attraction strikes again
Your wish is my command..

What seems quite apparent to me seems to have escaped the majrity of Humons.

Attraction is indeed a POWERFUL Force, and works whether or not You believe in it or not. Think bad stuff, and more-than-likely, bad is what You'll find. Even amongst the Good. Think Good stuff, and more-than-likely, good is what You'll find. Even amongst the bad.

What many people find as a "failing" of the Law of Attraction is that Many People think that only mean to "Think, and therefore it is." That would be cool, but NOBODY I listen to says anything like that. Creating doesn't just happen. Other elements are indeed part of the Law.

Attraction ..... lets look at the Word .....

Attraction. Now, let's accentuate a letter AttrAction and remove a couple letters, and we get At Action, which is the second step in Manifestation, or Creation, or howeve Your Brain wants to cognatize this. ACTION can now by made because the Thought has been put forth as something to Focus upon, and because of that, what needs to hapen to make that Thought a Reality can start to be Attracted to You to use. Unexplained "Co-Incidences" that make it easier to Create what we want. ACTION is Born from Attraction, which is Born from Thought, and as an overall Result, that that we Thought is Brought into Reality. Does it happen overnight? Sometimes. Does it happen Miraculously? Sometimes. Does it happen everytime? Everytime the Intention is Strong enough, and the right actions are addressed and taken.



or not. the Choice is Yours.

There is an Emotional Journey and an Action Journey...


The thing about the thoughts or the emotional journey is that when your "thoughts" bring you into alignment with your desires, You want to take the "Action" required and the "Action" you do take tends to be more inspired and effective.
You can't just "think" and expect anything to happen but your empowered thoughts will attract to you the inspired and effective action that is required.
:cool:

Action lovers, what if what I desire is to be more happy? Are you saying I can't simply think and have that come true? (It has)

What if what I want is a better relationship with my coworkers? Are you saying I can't simply change my thoughts and have that come true? (It has)

Thoughts are actions.

The problem here is that when the opponents of the 'mind aspect' of LOA attribute it all to the action taken after the thought is created, they are usually soley focusing on tangible things like careers, money, cars, beautiful spouses. Things you can hold in your hand, so to speak. Those things can't manifest without action of some kind.

Many of the things LOA can bring to you certainly CAN manifest with thought alone. Some can't, or would be very unlikely to manifest with thought alone.

The 'think and it comes true' aspect of LOA happens constantly. On a level most people define as insigificant. Our mental state. Or emotional state. Some things that are tangible and SEEM to manifest with thought alone could be attributed to coicidence. Easy answer for the average skeptic. I personally believe that "coincidence" gets way more credit that it deserves and that "divine providence" gets the short shrift. Luckily DP is a really happy, patient, forgiving fellow. :thumb:

Jennifer

Action lovers, what if what I desire is to be more happy? Are you saying I can't simply think and have that come true? (It has)
.. What if what I want is a better relationship with my coworkers? Are you saying I can't simply change my thoughts and have that come true? (It has)
.. Thoughts are actions. ...Think and be happy without any action? You said thoughts are action. And as the thought and the action and the result all occur in the same place, then no 'other' action is required.

Think and have a better relationship without action? No, not possible. Your thoughts are action are not sufficient action, because all you end up with is that you *think* you have a better relationship. You don't actually *have* a better relationship until to interact (take further action) with the person/people with whom you have the relationship. Only by taking 'improved-relationship' action can you have a better relationship.

Nice try, Jennifer.

Think and be happy without any action? You said thoughts are action. And as the thought and the action and the result all occur in the same place, then no 'other' action is required.

Think and have a better relationship without action? No, not possible. Your thoughts are action are not sufficient action, because all you end up with is that you *think* you have a better relationship. You don't actually *have* a better relationship until to interact (take further action) with the person/people with whom you have the relationship. Only by taking 'improved-relationship' action can you have a better relationship.

Nice try, Jennifer.

In my experience, it is possible, Spider. Nice try yourself.

You are saying you can't "think" something into existance or "think" something true. Literally, I have seen it happen. Personally, and with almost all of the people in my LOA classes. (There is always one in every crowd that sincerely doesn't believe it's possible and as a result gets no satisfaction) I have seen amazing examples of people that just start thinking differently and they manifest. Or think of something they want and it manifests in some way. Not like it appears magically on the table before them, but instead just "gets" to them. With no conventional action on their part, whatsoever. Things that are so specific, it couldn't be coincidence.

Yes, thoughts are actions. But not the kind of actions you are referring to, so you can't claim that is what you are talking about.

You absolutely can have a better relationship just by thinking differently and not taking any action. That is the EASIEST thing to do with LOA, I have found. Just think thoughts of kindness and feel love toward people you are typically at odds with, or have NO relationship with normally over a long period of time, like with coworkers in different departments. I think thoughts of kindness and love and respect and suddenly they seek me out and start a relationship. Or become different toward me. Friendly out of the blue. Or cooperative where they previously weren't. You don't even have to say a word or do anything different. It works all the time.

People ask and receive with no effort. It does happen. If you do not believe in the process, you will never know if it's true or not.

One woman in our class wanted to manifest enough money to build a new building for her group of underpriviledged kids. Of course she had no idea where this money would come from. She took this class and started thinking the way good manifestors think and within six months, they broke ground on a building. Someone who knew of her good work just came out of the blue with a grant from the estate of a loved one and offered it to her.

Small things too. Another woman was distressed after a trip to the pharmacy revealed that her favorite lipstick had been discontinued. She decided to try manifesting it at another pharmacy. On her way, she stopped to make an appointment at her hairdresser and the lady who cuts her hair, out of the blue, asked her if she wanted a lipstick that the hairdresser didn't like the color of. It was her discontinued lipstick, in the correct shade.

There are hundreds of stories like these. Some fairly vague, others incredibly detailed and beyond the limits of what could be considered a fluke.

Action, in and of itself, is not a horrid or bad thing to me. It's the fastest, best way to achieve anything in life. But to discount and badmouth the power of the mind and the power of LOA simply because it sounds supernatural is closed-minded and reflects your lack of personal experience. You'll see it when you believe it.


Jennifer

Think and be happy without any action? You said thoughts are action. And as the thought and the action and the result all occur in the same place, then no 'other' action is required.

Think and have a better relationship without action? No, not possible. Your thoughts are action are not sufficient action, because all you end up with is that you *think* you have a better relationship. You don't actually *have* a better relationship until to interact (take further action) with the person/people with whom you have the relationship. Only by taking 'improved-relationship' action can you have a better relationship.

Nice try, Jennifer.Since You "know" what others only seem to Halucinate Spider, lets do this then. OK?

You maintain that Thought Alone Absolutely cannot, and thus, will not, create a Shift, a Change, a Manifestation. Right? OK. You might be right. and If You are, You will find no change with this little experiment. and so no one screws it up, YOU are allowed to do the Thinking, so You will know that there were no Smoke or Mirrors or Outside involvement or Influence involved.

First, Kiss and Hug Your Wife, and tell her You are doing a little experiment to prove a bunch of new age hooeyites wrong and REALLY put them in their place. You might want to add your little gleeful giggle at the same time.

OK, so whats Your Part? Thinking. You're pretty good at that. In fact, I'll bet your REAL good at thinking. What to Think? "DeVolving Relationship" thoughts. But No Actions! no Cheating! JUST Think Thoughts of Boredom and Apathy and Distress and Distain and Chagrin. and feel free to add any others You think might be appropriate to a Devolving Relationship. Do this for 4 Days. 4 Days? Why 4 Days? Well, You've said before that not only can "it" not happen, but it certainly would not Happen with any speed at all. So 4 Days should be a fair test. "It" in this case is attraction of a Devolving Relationship.

You'll be doing the world a favor, putting to rest any serious Thought or discussion about thought being able to do anything except think. Law of Attraction! Pfffpt! AND, You'll be able to show that from a Negative Atraction point of view! Perfect!

keep us posted as to Your Experiences and Findings. OK Sport! I bet You can harldy wait to rub everybodies noses in it! You'll show Them!

I have been more-or-less silent on the LOA front, having said my piece before, because to continue to question it would be negative and there's no purpose in that. I don't believe it, as portrayed, but that's no reason to continually pull it down. (You, on the other hand, Jennifer, should continue to press your point because yours is a positive argument.)

But, you did challenge us 'Action Lovers' with a 'what-if' and I do like a challenge!!

You said, "....If you do not believe in the process, you will never know if it's true or not.." - to which I must reply, If you do believe in the process, you will never know if it's false or not! IOW, to determine if it is true or false, one must approach the enquiry without belief either way.

Because, otherwise, what will happen is what will happen in the challenge the Captain has given me. He sets up a scenario that appears to be an easy win for me. Whereas it is set up as a guaranteed win for him. In his view. In my view, it is a guaranteed win for me.

We will both see in the results what we want to see, we will end up both accusing the other of spin, of refusing to see the obvious and even worse. No opinions will change, and the only possible result is undecided bystanders will be even more undecided.

No. Best let the undecided work it out for themselves. I'm happy for you guys to convince them that the LOA works, because that is a more positive result than believing that the LOA does not work.

I will not help you convince them, because that would be lying on my part. Consider not-believing an affliction, an incurable disease. Once an engineer, always an engineer!

I have been more-or-less silent on the LOA front, having said my piece before, because to continue to question it would be negative and there's no purpose in that. I don't believe it, as portrayed, but that's no reason to continually pull it down. (You, on the other hand, Jennifer, should continue to press your point because yours is a positive argument.)

But, you did challenge us 'Action Lovers' with a 'what-if' and I do like a challenge!!

You said, "....If you do not believe in the process, you will never know if it's true or not.." - to which I must reply, If you do believe in the process, you will never know if it's false or not! IOW, to determine if it is true or false, one must approach the enquiry without belief either way.

Because, otherwise, what will happen is what will happen in the challenge the Captain has given me. He sets up a scenario that appears to be an easy win for me. Whereas it is set up as a guaranteed win for him. In his view. In my view, it is a guaranteed win for me.

We will both see in the results what we want to see, we will end up both accusing the other of spin, of refusing to see the obvious and even worse. No opinions will change, and the only possible result is undecided bystanders will be even more undecided.

No. Best let the undecided work it out for themselves. I'm happy for you guys to convince them that the LOA works, because that is a more positive result than believing that the LOA does not work.

I will not help you convince them, because that would be lying on my part. Consider not-believing an affliction, an incurable disease. Once an engineer, always an engineer!Then go for it Spider. If You REALLY think that Thoughts do not Attract Like Consiquences, You just arent lookin'. or Feelin'.

I'm hearing this in the lovely voice of the incomparable, gorgeous, genius of light...Amber Dotts....

What if....I believed that by training my mind, I could bring about massively positive change in my own life and the lives of others?

What if....I believed that thoughts are things? I love Jenni's statement that thoughts are actions.

Spider, let me say right now, I love you. You invited me here, and this forum has added so many positive moments to my life! In just the space of 30 days, your invitation has totally changed my world for the better. And, I love my Official Spider Gratitude Rock. I carry it with me wherever I go. I picked up a new one at UPW last weekend.....and I have given some away as well, to spread the love.

Jenni, I absolutely adore you, girl. Loved ya over there, love ya even more over here. Your shares are so extraordinary! I can't wait to see what you have to say next! I love your view point on LOA.

MantaRayz, Holy Cow, dude....you're so wise it's scary (but GOOD scary.)

XOXOXOXOX,
Julia
"Attracting AWESOME Outcomes Through ACTION!"

Thank you, Julia. I love you, too. (Just don't let my wife hear me say that!)

You said, "....If you do not believe in the process, you will never know if it's true or not.." - to which I must reply, If you do believe in the process, you will never know if it's false or not! IOW, to determine if it is true or false, one must approach the enquiry without belief either way.

To this I reply that I have known nothing of LOA until April of this year. Maybe vague comments here and there by gurus I have encountered that hinted at it. But nothing cohesive until The Secret and all that followed. So, I do have a pre-LOA perspective from which to base my judgements that it DOES work. (Ie: my whole life up until this point.)

Before and after. It's truly like night and day. The evidence is sometimes subtle and sometimes like a body-slam. The more I attend to it, mentally and emotionally, the proportionately stronger response I get from LOA. It's infallible if you do what they tell you to do.

I see that you are maybe saying that because I believe in it, that I attribute all my successes to it. If you were here in my world, you would believe in it too. The evidence is overwhelming and I don't even work that hard at it. Not as hard as I should or could. When I stop or get lazy, the results stop or slow down. When I pick it up, the results pick up again.

But I did have a lifetime of 'no belief' either way. This system has been known of and in use for millennia. Before the bible. Why would it be up to you and I to prove or disprove it in the year 2006? I have tested it. I just know it works and I ride it.

Jennifer